@fuznutz04 said in Backup server comparison:

@black3dynamite Ah yes, SLAT. Almost forgot about that. I ran into that trying to install HV 2016 on a REALLY old box for testing. I could install it, but that's where the story ended.

If I get the E5620 or higher in the Xeon family, I think I should be fine. I know for sure that the E5620 works. I have them in my R710.

The same thing happened to me. So it made my decision to use KVM even easier for what I was using the server for.

@black3dynamite said in Should I backup my file server VM or just the files?:

@scottalanmiller said in Should I backup my file server VM or just the files?:

@jaredbusch said in Should I backup my file server VM or just the files?:

Scott likes to talk like everyone uses state systems when that is far from the case.

Scott likes to talk like everyone should use state systems, which is nearly always the case.

But even if you don't, if you have automated rebuild and install scripts, or use cloud computing, you rarely want to restore the whole thing rather than just the data. It's way more than just state systems. We've been doing this since long before state systems were a thing.

With a stand-alone windows file server is not so bad redeploying it with the help of powershell. But it’s so different compare to Linux.

Yes, much more work for sure. But no matter what OS you use, no matter what your backup situation is, you should have a rapid new deployment system to rebuild systems whether it is script, state, or whatever.

I stumbled upon Comet Backup and Wasabi. Any feedback about them?

@manheraz
This may help a bit:
https://www.virtualtothecore.com/en/permissions-for-veeam-backup-linux-repositories/

Veeam also has a Linux based recovery environment that can provide full recovery of Linux VM's into the HC3 system.

Unlike windows, the virtio drivers are already built in to the Veeam Linux Recovery ISO so there is no additional step required for it to see the disk to recover to ... so in this example, I just want to restore all of disk vda from the backup repostory to the blank vda disk.

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Restore the entire disk.

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@dafyre said in KVM and Back Ups:

@scottalanmiller said in KVM and Back Ups:

@dafyre said in KVM and Back Ups:

@scottalanmiller said in KVM and Back Ups:

@dafyre said in KVM and Back Ups:

In my experience with it, it has often corrupted randomly and to the point that it's own snapshots are no help, nor are VMware Snapshots.

How could it correct VMware snapshots?

I guess it's more that BtrFS doesn't detect the corruption early enough and our VMware snapshot are nothing but snapshots of corrupt data... That's about the only way I can explain it.

General risk with hypervisor level backups. This is a huge reason for either local file based or what I call devops backups. They are at a higher level, so there is way more opportunity for this.

But if the system was okay when you took the VMware snap, it should have been okay when you restored it. Regardless of corruption.

Yeah, exactly.... and this is why Snapshots are not a backup!

Snapshots absolutely are the backup mechanism.

@dims said in Is the 3-2-1 rule antiquated?:

the majority of the previous cases of implementing such solutions indicates that the most popular would be the one where the data would first be replicated between 2 hosts, on site and one off prem.

Yes, because normally that is insant, you'd not want to wait for the WAN copy before making the local one.

@dafyre said in PowerShell - Script never completes. Is there a session timeout?:

@anthonyh said in PowerShell - Script never completes. Is there a session timeout?:

@dafyre said in PowerShell - Script never completes. Is there a session timeout?:

ROFL. Not a problem. Things working as designed. Next!

For what it's worth, my post was intended to be framed from the standpoint of "what am I doing wrong??" rather than "what's wrong with the system?!". I figured I was missing something stupid.

Never hurts to have extra eyes. I didn't even think about the potential for this to be a scheduled job... God, I have a case of the Mondays.

Not your fault at all. I did not mention it in my OP. Whoops. Perhaps I'm the one with a case of the Mondays.

IMHO, dispersing the storage between the hosts and configuring data replication between them would be the best option.

Creating several tiers for the migration of your VMs is always nice to have - downtime strikes unexpectedly.

@nerdydad said in Hurricane Harvey:

Expect gas prices to go up as the refineries are also along the Texas Gulf coast. because they will use any and every excuse to raise gas prices.

I like Crashplan and it works well enough that I'm just going to suck it up and pay the $10 a month for the "business" edition since it works with Linux and all that jazz.

I will likely use Unison to get all my devices into a central folder on the computer that runs my crashplan backups, and then I don't have to worry about it any more.

@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

@scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

@matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.

Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smb

The memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).

@scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

@matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.

Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smb

The memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).

No you are right 1gb is for dedup

I do this a lot 😉

@shuey said in Advice on building "storage servers" with two DL380 G7 servers:

The CDW rep said:

"Is it apple to apples or did xbyte use third party memory and drives? We are dell's largest partner so it should not be a large difference if truly apples to apples."

CDW might be the largest, but they aren't known for passing along good pricing, being very honest and they only deal in new, not refurb. So it is expected that their prices will be way higher.

xByte will use non-Dell parts, but keeps them under warranty. So it remains apples to apples. CDW is just panicking because they want the sale.

@penguinwrangler said in Enterprise backup: Citrix XenServer, RHEV, oVirt, KVM:

@matteo-nunziati Yes, I treat them independently. Which I would love to have the Veeam Appliance which can control them but money is too tight for that.

Let us know when the money isn't so tight 😉

@RestoronixSean