@Tim_G said in How would you build this:

@JaredBusch said in How would you build this:

@Tim_G said in How would you build this:

It sounds like the hardware will just be running one VM. Built-in back up on Hyper-V Server 2016 all the way via the host, no issues there if you can use block-level storage for your backups. It's so much easier and faster to backup and restore the VM as a whole anyways... no VM agent needed. Also, you get the option of "production" checkpoints (snapshots) on 2016. That's definitely noteworthy.

What specific features are you talking about here? I have Hyper-V 2016 server up in a lab environment but have yet to actually test anything.

I mentioned two in there. Windows Server Backup, and "Production Checkpoints".

I was not sure if those were that actual names of the features. I will have to check into them.

Obviously Windows Server Backup used to be a specific thing in full installs of Windows Server. Likewise, Checkpoints are a standard thing, but I have not heard about Production checkpoints.

@Danp said in How would you build this:

Beyond the aforementioned finger pointing, what prevents you from running the VM on your current virtual infrastructure w/o purchasing an additional server?

Current infrastructure or not is a separate discussion point, and not one I need to have here. I know what is where with current infrastructure and how much that will weigh into a decision.

This discussion is strictly regarding the information provided in the OP and follow up clarification posts.

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@bigbear said in Yealink T58V and Video Calling:

Yes, directmedia I suppose.

Enable reinvite.

Nagios is a great tool, as are most of the ones you mentioned.

All monitoring tools take a lot of setup time though. So taking the time now to pick one you seriously like is a very good idea.

I have used PRTG found that to do everything I really wanted, the paid product would have been the best choice.

I tried to setup Nagios and came to the same conclusion as @Tim_G.

I have a Zabbix instance running at a client but I have done very little setup with it. It is a very solid tool for the little time I put in it. I think with only a little more education time I can get it set up well.

That is the limit of my recommendations on these.

@scottalanmiller said in How would you build this:

@JaredBusch said in How would you build this:

@scottalanmiller said in How would you build this:

@JaredBusch said in How would you build this:

@scottalanmiller said in How would you build this:

Do they only support RHEL when branded as RHEL or do they support CentOS, too? That's an additional large cost savings.

They only support RHEL. And it is only $349 for RHEL and $450 per year to maintain RHEL support for the KVM box. It is a cost, but not very significant.

The VM instance is RHEL, but not something to be touched without breaking the designed suport system.

So the KVM bit, though, you could do without RH and only get a license for the VM itself. Since you'd, I assume, not get support for Hyper-V in the same way, you don't need it for KVM.

Correct for hte hypervisor.
For the VM, it has full RHEL support as part of the purchase from the vendor. That is never a question.

Makes sense. Not ideal, but not a big deal, either. Or maybe ideal for you individually if you wanted that support. Just not ideal not to have the flexibility to choose for yourself.

Yes, and I have a personal preference for this situation, but I am keeping my questions and responses neutral. Because I want feedback and not an echo chamber for my ideas.

@Tim_G said in How would you build this:

It sounds like the hardware will just be running one VM. Built-in back up on Hyper-V Server 2016 all the way via the host, no issues there if you can use block-level storage for your backups. It's so much easier and faster to backup and restore the VM as a whole anyways... no VM agent needed. Also, you get the option of "production" checkpoints (snapshots) on 2016. That's definitely noteworthy.

What specific features are you talking about here? I have Hyper-V 2016 server up in a lab environment but have yet to actually test anything.

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

WTF

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@scottalanmiller said in How would you build this:

@JaredBusch said in How would you build this:

@scottalanmiller said in How would you build this:

Do they only support RHEL when branded as RHEL or do they support CentOS, too? That's an additional large cost savings.

They only support RHEL. And it is only $349 for RHEL and $450 per year to maintain RHEL support for the KVM box. It is a cost, but not very significant.

The VM instance is RHEL, but not something to be touched without breaking the designed suport system.

So the KVM bit, though, you could do without RH and only get a license for the VM itself. Since you'd, I assume, not get support for Hyper-V in the same way, you don't need it for KVM.

Correct for hte hypervisor.
For the VM, it has full RHEL support as part of the purchase from the vendor. That is never a question.