Just an overlook: https://aws.amazon.com/it/blogs/aws/glacier-vault-lock/ .

It should be cheaper than tapes or HDD for that range of data.

Veeam DOES recommended avoiding low end NAS devices, and recommends SAN over NAS because Veeam wants block protocols. These parts are true and we don't need to watch videos as they are available in writing from @Rick-Vanover - we even have the author of the best practices here in the community!

https://www.veeam.com/blog/vmware-backup-repository-configuration-best-practices.html

The keys here are "low end" which is an issue around support. The misleading bit is that NAS means server, so low end servers are every bit affected in the same ways. The QNAP, Synology, ReadyNAS and other such devices are not actually NAS but Unified Storage, SAN as much as NAS. That Veeam recommends SAN instead of NAS is a protocol choice, it does not make those devices any less applicable. We should not be calling them NAS, as that is misleading, they are equally both.

If we really look at the guidance and consider what it could mean, the only real concern is "low end" and low end is always of some concern. Why spend so much on Veeam and Windows licensing and then get cheap on the hardware? You want solid storage hardware and solid support. But nothing here is telling us that there is anything wrong at all with these kinds of devices and certainly the issue is not some kind of corruption caused by the fact that they are in this product category.

Simplistically speaking, when it doesn't work.
If it works, then it's a backup.
If it does not work, then it's a waste of time and disk space.

@JaredBusch said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

@matteo-nunziati said in Hardware Design for SAM-DR Small Rackmount Backup Device:

@scottalanmiller just a question (sw not hw) why veeam rather than say.. altaro. Just curious!

There is no backup software on this device. It is a storage target. One assumes that @scottalanmiller will be using some base OS that lets you setup basically any type of connectivity.

Ok! Got it wrong! Thanks for clarifying

lol - the ultimate in ransomware protection. watch they don't raise prices, that's a premium feature

@scottalanmiller Replacement as (rather than use vanilla rsync) I'll go with this version.

I've used rsnapshot a good bit and it's a really nice tool for simple backups.

I have used it in the past, and it did work, but it seemed kinda fiddly to get going sometimes. That may have been due to the VLANs we used.

I never had to recover a whole system with it, but I did recover files from the vhd's without any problems at all.

@scottalanmiller said in Share Your Backup Failure Stories to Celebrate Backup Day:

@RojoLoco said in Share Your Backup Failure Stories to Celebrate Backup Day:

Backup Exec....

Say no more, we feel your pain.

Sadly we have that in one area as well. I don't understand why.

It's true that you can make stateless systems without DevOps tooling and approaches. But the nature and assumptions of those systems is that you cannot. Just letting arbitrary logins (even of administrators) can undermine that. One of the beauties of the pure DevOps model is the lack of logins. Much like functional programming.

If ever there was an RGE*, this would be it.
 
 
 
 
*Resume Generating Event

@Dashrender said in When a Backup Becomes an Archive:

@BRRABill said in When a Backup Becomes an Archive:

@Dashrender said in When a Backup Becomes an Archive:

Way to flip it back on them.

Did you drop an imaginary mike afterwards?

Knowing Scott, he did. Just in his own way.

Knowing Scott he probably had a real one in his pocket, which he pulled out, then dropped.

It's on my calendar. I want to hear about all the new stuff @scale is up to!

@FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

I assumed we "are" talking about 7.0?

Yes, it works on XS7.

@DustinB3403 was running into the same issues I was on 6.5.

There is dicsussion that some other process is changing it back, but we have not started to troubleshoot that. (I no longer have any XS6.5 boxes here.)

Sorry for taking a bit, I was able to find it for you. Here is the link:

Disaster Recovery Made Easy from Scale Webinar

@Ambarishrh said in LAMP replication to DR site:

How about setup MySQL replication to remote site and then enable MySQLdump local backup on the DR site as well with increased frequency than daily ( may be twice a day). This way we have an up to date/latest copy and in case let's say there was a drop table command on master, and primary site failed, I can still switch to secondary, use the latest mysql backup to restore and make it up and running.

Yup, that's what I would do. Get HA and DR all in one setup. Have it take backups 24 times a day if you want. The impact is pretty much zero.

@FATeknollogee said:

@scottalanmiller said:

I'm watching the videos trying to figure out what it does. Looks like a decent product but haven't seen any single pane of glass stuff yet.

Did you at least find one compelling feature?

Not yet.

@LAH3385
Eventually I will end up where you are suggesting - though I currently use Dell's Appassure Replay, not Veeam.

Looks like the topic ran away from me...been swamped with other things this past week...glad to see it made for good conversation.

@Danp said:

@johnhooks said:

So I've waited about 30 minutes or so, much longer after the backup completed. I still have a snapshot called XO_DELTA_BASE_VDI_SNAPSHOT. Am I able to delete it and it not affect the backup or is the delta based off of the snapshot?

Did you every get clarification on this? I suspect this is needed for the delta backup.

Yes, it uses the snapshots to make the backups. That's what I figured it was doing, but since Dustin didn't see it I thought maybe something was wrong.

We resolved it in another thread, I can't remember which one at this point.

The one big difference is that snowflake firms (or any size) tend to lean towards platform-based, agentless backups while DevOps firms almost never take platform-based backups because they have no need to ever restore a full VM, only the data.

@Dashrender said:

@scottalanmiller earlier was mentioning differentials vs incrementals.

I wonder if the terms still apply, or if the industry at large has dropped the two terms and simply moved to the use of incrementals.

Pretty big deal... if you delete a differential nothing bad happens. Delete an incremental and you have a disaster...

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1276968-backing-up-6-pc-s-to-a-nas-using-acronis?page=1#entry-5202270

MySQL seems to be completely hosed. I'm going to have to rebuild the server, as restoring from backups even a week ago, even at the VM level, is not working!

It's the curse of large companies. Once you get to a certain size you have more than enough unhappy customers (or people with a reason to make you look bad) that will be vocal in any setting that you just always have them no matter what you do. No way to be a huge company without that happening.