However if it let's you view the stuff in explorer then my point still stands. I don't think that browsing a file share is "made for techies".

@notverypunny said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

@stacksofplates said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

@Dashrender said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

@black3dynamite said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

From a Linux Desktop, you can browse multiple protocols without additional applications. I personally use FileZilla Client but I've also use WinSCP too.

From a Nautilus File Manager:

I don't consider this quite a fair comparison. Linux distros are mostly made by and for techies. There need/desire for these tools to be included seems obvious. Windows on the other hand is meant for the masses, and those tools would be unused by 95% or more.
So sure - it's cool they are there, but that's about all.

I'd argue it's mostly because windows doesn't natively support other protocols. You can browse SMB shares from explorer because it's natively supported. I'd be willing to bet if windows supported NFS or SSHFS or SFTP or any other protocols you would be able to do it in explorer.

Windows server supports NFS shares... I honestly haven't looked into using explorer to browse NFS but this is adding some weak-sauce to the argument.... This post stopped being constructive a while back so I don't feel too bad for adding fuel to the fire.

I'll hitch my wagon to the "Linux is better" camp because the only time that I've seen any advantage to windows is if you've got to administer an MS environment (much of my day job), have to use windows only software (such as our ERP's client software), or are otherwise stuck in a MS ecosystem (users / processes heavily entrenched in the world of windows-only software and systems).

I thought you had to use things like Maestro to get NFS on Windows. I never heard of being able to use it before. My bad.

@Dashrender said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

@black3dynamite said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

From a Linux Desktop, you can browse multiple protocols without additional applications. I personally use FileZilla Client but I've also use WinSCP too.

From a Nautilus File Manager:

I don't consider this quite a fair comparison. Linux distros are mostly made by and for techies. There need/desire for these tools to be included seems obvious. Windows on the other hand is meant for the masses, and those tools would be unused by 95% or more.
So sure - it's cool they are there, but that's about all.

I'd argue it's mostly because windows doesn't natively support other protocols. You can browse SMB shares from explorer because it's natively supported. I'd be willing to bet if windows supported NFS or SSHFS or SFTP or any other protocols you would be able to do it in explorer.

@Emad-R said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

@scottalanmiller said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

mRemoteNG

Cause windows is better at managing Linux at a scale. you have many softwares for that

WinSCP
mRemoteNG

Linux is just server, and it uses SSH as single port of administrator, so my point is with Windows you get the best of everything. and once your inside Linux server your in, it doesnt matter from where you SShed from.

My point is the best linux admin tool is windows

You're just trolling at this point. You've either literally never used a Linux based OS or you are making false claims on purpose. Because saying things like WinSCP is good for managing Linux at scale clearly shows you have no clue what's going on. Maybe "at scale" to you is like 6 machines?

Btw you still haven't responded to any posts that have real world examples.

@scottalanmiller said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

@Emad-R said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

What about GPU performance? and drivers for that

Yup, extremely good. Works just the same for me. So that's a non-issue unless you are doing something crazy.

Especially with ATI. They have repos you just pull the vendor drivers from.

He seems to conveniently ignore the posts that give real world examples like @scottalanmiller's and mine

I'll do it along with my current job for $37 an hour. You don't need to pay health insurance then.

@Emad-R said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

Linux is only meant for Server OSes ... not for our workstations, it will only take more of your time.

Yeah I'm going to go ahead and disagree here. My previous job we had mix of HP z model workstations (440, 640, 840, 420, etc) with both NVIDIA and AMD cards in different systems and 10Gb NICs. We also deployed Dell 9020s with integrated graphics and Dell latitude laptops. Also some HP DL160 clusters. All running RHEL 7 desktops. Our engineers preferred that over windows.

We had no driver issues like you're mentioning other than NVIDIA which is kind of a given.

I could PXE boot a workstation and have it kickstart, then call Tower to have the hardening applied and joined to the domain in about 15 mins. That's faster than they could pump out Windows systems and all we had to do was reboot and hit F11 (or whatever the network boot key was) and walk away.

I've had Linux on multiple laptops and desktops and 99% of the time I have no issues. There might have been one obscure driver in all of the systems I have had that didn't work.

Plus you'd get things like single use passwords, SSH CA, encryption as a service, and some more

You could use a tool like Vault. Then you'd have access logs for credentials.