Our team has one of these.

https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/conferencecam-connect

Worked decently well.

It was mostly a workaround to when we couldn't get a room that had one of the 65inch cisco meeting setups.

@marcinozga said in Microservices - any real world examples?:

@stacksofplates said in Microservices - any real world examples?:

@marcinozga said in Microservices - any real world examples?:

@stacksofplates said in Microservices - any real world examples?:

Bitwarden isn't a microservice based architecture. It's just a service based. If you're using a shared database, it's not a microservice. Microservices each have their own database and then either through your API gateway, service discovery, message broker, etc each service queries the other service for the data it needs.

That’s a false statement. Microservices can share single database. In perfect world each microservice would have each own, but we’re far from perfect.

No it's not. That's what defines it as a microservice. If the services all talk to the same database, it's just a service based architecture.

No, because there’s really no single definition of microservices.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microservices

Also https://microservices.io/patterns/data/shared-database.html

That doesn't really show anything. From that same site:

Again, if they aren't loosely coupled, all encompassing services they aren't microservices. Just as wikipedia says, the consensus is they are loosely coupled. If they are tied to a single database they are by definition, not loosely coupled.

There's kind of a push now to move back towards monoliths (or other more sensible designs). Mainly because of the complexity and performance loss.

As with anything a ton of places heard microservices were the future, jumped on, and started using it without actually researching. It's good for some use cases, and not for a lot of them.

Here's a diagram for each from Mark Richards and Neal Ford.

Service Based:

Microservices:

And here's a Tweet from Kelsey on a funny name for service based:

There's quite a few architecture designs, and they can be similar but specific things define them, like where they write and get data from. There's a distinction between monoliths as well. There's a normal monolith, and then there's a micro-kernel. Obviously the monolith has everything, but the micro-kernel is still a monolith, but has API hooks for plugins to the monolithic core.

@marcinozga said in Microservices - any real world examples?:

@stacksofplates said in Microservices - any real world examples?:

Bitwarden isn't a microservice based architecture. It's just a service based. If you're using a shared database, it's not a microservice. Microservices each have their own database and then either through your API gateway, service discovery, message broker, etc each service queries the other service for the data it needs.

That’s a false statement. Microservices can share single database. In perfect world each microservice would have each own, but we’re far from perfect.

No it's not. That's what defines it as a microservice. If the services all talk to the same database, it's just a service based architecture.

You can abstract this away even a little further with space based architecture where you have a central db but the services don't talk directly to it. They use in memory database like Ignite, Hazelcast, Aerospike, etc and then the data is replicated back to the central db at some point.

There are a lot of examples, but they're usually internal and are very large. Microservices are complex and very network intensive. I don't know of any consumer software that follows that architecture pattern.

Bitwarden isn't a microservice based architecture. It's just a service based. If you're using a shared database, it's not a microservice. Microservices each have their own database and then either through your API gateway, service discovery, message broker, etc each service queries the other service for the data it needs.

GitLab is another example of a service based architecture. Even though you can deploy GitLab on k8s as separate services, there is a shared database backend that all of the services talk to.

@black3dynamite said in ZeroTier New Website:

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@warren-stanley said in ZeroTier New Website:

looks like it updated - i created a freebie account a little while back (just in case)

That kind of bugs me. I understand that it's 50 devices, whatever. And I've been using it for like 4-5 years now. But why is there no grandfathered plan for already existing members. It used to be like 10, and then they made it 100. Now they're taking some away? I get money and what not, but usually you get grandfathered in instead of just blanked removal.

I get having a grandfathered paid plan but a free plan, I’m 50/50 with that one.

yeah idk, it just seems to be not the normal pattern for services lately, but I do understand it's free. I guess maybe even a notification about the change would have been nice. I didn't get any information that they were changing it.

To be fair, I don't have anywhere near even 50, so I won't be affected. It still just seems like a bleh thing to do.

@warren-stanley said in ZeroTier New Website:

looks like it updated - i created a freebie account a little while back (just in case)

That kind of bugs me. I understand that it's 50 devices, whatever. And I've been using it for like 4-5 years now. But why is there no grandfathered plan for already existing members. It used to be like 10, and then they made it 100. Now they're taking some away? I get money and what not, but usually you get grandfathered in instead of just blanked removal.