The "working data" that I mentioned that scrolls by quickly before our summary chart appears from this example looks like the below output. Generally we can ignore this, but it can be useful should there be an error to see where something has gone wrong.

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@travisdh1 said:

@johnhooks The difference is 6 compared to a half dozen (at least in this case.)

I used to know a reason why you would use less or more in certain cases, but it's been so long that I no longer remember what caused a difference.

I know of no case where you use more. I always used it because I learned it first, but less is the only one you would actually want to use.

I use it very little but have the odd task that I use it for. It's difficult to pop into a one liner so I try to use other tools when possible.

That's a good question... when does chrooting make more sense than containers today?

Storage is one. Lots of people use chroot jails for storage purposes. Containers are heavier than chrooting which has effectively no impact on any resources.

@dafyre said:

@johnhooks said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@johnhooks said:

@dafyre said:

Why are there two NFS servers to start with? (Just curious)

They're only 20-24 drives each. About 50TB per server. All of the engineer's home folders are on them so one isn't enough.

At some point down the road we are going to implement a clustered storage but we just don't have the time right now because of time constraints for this project.

Gluster could be done in an hour. I have how tos posted for both NFS Home Automounting and Gluster 🙂

Ha yes anywhere else it would take no time at all. We have so much red tape to jump through it's ridiculous.

Start setting up and testing a Gluster Cluster (see what I did there?)... and maybe by the time you get it set up and tested, you'll be done playing jump rope with the red tape.

The other issue is the NFS servers we have right now are applicances (was done before I got here I've only been here less than a month). We can install certain things, but too much and we might lose "support."

We have to have these inspectors come in and approve stuff if any changes are made to this network. It's ridiculous.

@scottalanmiller said:

@johnhooks said:

How secure is running a DE in the Dom0 though?

Are they running it there?

Ya.

Dom0 is sort of a system domain separate from the default domains and any other domains you create. The desktop manager runs in this domain. Your login credentials reside there. Much like a super domain, Dom0 is more trusted than any other domain.

It provides just two functions: It runs the window manager and the desktop manager.

Do they support booting from UEFI yet?

NixOS is a little interesting as all. Heavy focus on DevOps processes.

@BBigford said:

Looks like there is quite a bit included in the free version for up to 10 premium users, and 10 basic users. Interesting.

Yes, it is quite extensive.

I have a couple of games that I can play on an old Lappy running Xubuntu.
With my growing distaste for the way that Windows and Microsoft work, it is good to know that if at any stage it all gets too much, I can still play games that others play.

@scottalanmiller said:

@travisdh1 said:

Thought I'd take a quick look at this. I like how the output looks, but agree that I wouldn't want to leave it running. The loadavg jumped just from starting to look at the output.

it would have to, that is a LOT of output!

Wow, you're not kidding about that. Even gives you the current available entropy from /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail. I've never seen something give you this much information and be so easy to get running.

@JaredBusch said:

Netdata is getting draw over on the UBNT community too.
http://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/FEATURE-REQUEST-Netdata-support-for-Edgerouter-Edgemax/m-p/1524997#U1524997

nice

@Kelly said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Did it rebuild successfully?

I don't know. I ended up setting up the necessary VMs on other hosts and started rebuilding this one since it has been having stability issues in the last few weeks.

Ah okay, probably best but it is nice when you can figure out what happened, just to know what it was 😞

Double post: http://mangolassi.it/topic/8668/the-bash-shell-is-coming-to-windows

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

Because the open source code itself can't be gotten rid of. Once something is Open Source, it's always Open Source, at least that's how I understand it.

Exactly, open has total protection for the consumer. Once the code is open, it's open. Period. There is no going back because it belongs to everyone at that point.

like releasing a photo of yourself and trying to take it back. It's already out there

To be honest, I wouldn't mind Unity if it wasn't so slow. I'd still prefer Gnome 3 because of the extensions though.