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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      Let's look at a different kind of system, a grocery store scanner. They measure the time to scan each time, so it is normally 1-3 seconds per item, but could be faster. If you measured that in 15 minute intervals, checking out one customer could register as having taken the entire week, even if it took two minutes.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

        @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

        @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

        @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

        @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

        @dbeato said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

        How can we add custom time to the helpdesk?
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        Right now those are the only options I see in minutes.

        This part I can agree with, in NY at least (I assume most other states) billable time is charged in 15 minute intervals.

        Having a custom time allowance doesn't make sense IMO.

        Billable - meaning to your employer.

        You don't track time in billable time to your employer, though. That means nothing.

        When you "punch a clock", you're required to punch in 15 minute intervals. None of this 5:33PM clock out bs (and expecting to be paid for work until 5:45 PM. You're paid for work until the nearest quarter hour.

        Sure, but what does that have to do with tracking efficiency and time spent on work throughout the day?

        Is the module meant for tracking efficiency or work day accountability? I view it as the "punch a clock" approach for reporting to HR/Accounting for paychecks.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

          @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

          @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

          @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

          @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

          @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

          @dbeato said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

          How can we add custom time to the helpdesk?
          0_1516859279579_DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180125004722.png
          Right now those are the only options I see in minutes.

          This part I can agree with, in NY at least (I assume most other states) billable time is charged in 15 minute intervals.

          Having a custom time allowance doesn't make sense IMO.

          Billable - meaning to your employer.

          You don't track time in billable time to your employer, though. That means nothing.

          When you "punch a clock", you're required to punch in 15 minute intervals. None of this 5:33PM clock out bs (and expecting to be paid for work until 5:45 PM. You're paid for work until the nearest quarter hour.

          Sure, but what does that have to do with tracking efficiency and time spent on work throughout the day?

          Is the module meant for tracking efficiency or work day accountability? I view it as the "punch a clock" approach for reporting to HR/Accounting for paychecks.

          It tracks the time spent on the ticket. Nothing more, nothing less.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

            @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

            @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

            @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

            @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

            @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

            @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

            @dbeato said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

            How can we add custom time to the helpdesk?
            0_1516859279579_DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180125004722.png
            Right now those are the only options I see in minutes.

            This part I can agree with, in NY at least (I assume most other states) billable time is charged in 15 minute intervals.

            Having a custom time allowance doesn't make sense IMO.

            Billable - meaning to your employer.

            You don't track time in billable time to your employer, though. That means nothing.

            When you "punch a clock", you're required to punch in 15 minute intervals. None of this 5:33PM clock out bs (and expecting to be paid for work until 5:45 PM. You're paid for work until the nearest quarter hour.

            Sure, but what does that have to do with tracking efficiency and time spent on work throughout the day?

            Is the module meant for tracking efficiency or work day accountability? I view it as the "punch a clock" approach for reporting to HR/Accounting for paychecks.

            It tracks the time spent on the ticket. Nothing more, nothing less.

            Then ignore everything I've said.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

              @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

              @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

              @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

              @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

              @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

              @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

              @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

              @dbeato said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

              How can we add custom time to the helpdesk?
              0_1516859279579_DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180125004722.png
              Right now those are the only options I see in minutes.

              This part I can agree with, in NY at least (I assume most other states) billable time is charged in 15 minute intervals.

              Having a custom time allowance doesn't make sense IMO.

              Billable - meaning to your employer.

              You don't track time in billable time to your employer, though. That means nothing.

              When you "punch a clock", you're required to punch in 15 minute intervals. None of this 5:33PM clock out bs (and expecting to be paid for work until 5:45 PM. You're paid for work until the nearest quarter hour.

              Sure, but what does that have to do with tracking efficiency and time spent on work throughout the day?

              Is the module meant for tracking efficiency or work day accountability? I view it as the "punch a clock" approach for reporting to HR/Accounting for paychecks.

              It tracks the time spent on the ticket. Nothing more, nothing less.

              Then ignore everything I've said.

              If you think about it, imagine if you did password resets all day - if we treated it as billable, you'd be forced to only reset a password four times an hour. You'd max out at 32 password resets in a day. That's not very many, you'd have to sit around waiting to be eligible to work again after each task.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                @scottalanmiller said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                @dbeato said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                How can we add custom time to the helpdesk?
                0_1516859279579_DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180125004722.png
                Right now those are the only options I see in minutes.

                This part I can agree with, in NY at least (I assume most other states) billable time is charged in 15 minute intervals.

                Having a custom time allowance doesn't make sense IMO.

                Billable - meaning to your employer.

                You don't track time in billable time to your employer, though. That means nothing.

                When you "punch a clock", you're required to punch in 15 minute intervals. None of this 5:33PM clock out bs (and expecting to be paid for work until 5:45 PM. You're paid for work until the nearest quarter hour.

                Sure, but what does that have to do with tracking efficiency and time spent on work throughout the day?

                Is the module meant for tracking efficiency or work day accountability? I view it as the "punch a clock" approach for reporting to HR/Accounting for paychecks.

                It tracks the time spent on the ticket. Nothing more, nothing less.

                Then ignore everything I've said.

                If you think about it, imagine if you did password resets all day - if we treated it as billable, you'd be forced to only reset a password four times an hour. You'd max out at 32 password resets in a day. That's not very many, you'd have to sit around waiting to be eligible to work again after each task.

                Not at all the way I'd look at it, but I get the point.

                You can do a billion password resets in a 15 minute interval (and still only charge the client for those 15 minutes). If using scripts to do it.

                If you want to use it as a means of I spent 3 minutes typing an email to the client asking for clarification. That's fine. I just think it is meant for more.

                Maybe add a flag for "billable time" to the time tracking function.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                  @dbeato said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                  How can we add custom time to the helpdesk?
                  0_1516859279579_DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180125004722.png
                  Right now those are the only options I see in minutes.

                  This part I can agree with, in NY at least (I assume most other states) billable time is charged in 15 minute intervals.

                  Having a custom time allowance doesn't make sense IMO.

                  NY actually passed a law stating you have to bill in 15 minute increments?

                  Sorry, I doubt that. Though it is NY.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @jaredbusch said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                    @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                    @dbeato said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                    How can we add custom time to the helpdesk?
                    0_1516859279579_DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180125004722.png
                    Right now those are the only options I see in minutes.

                    This part I can agree with, in NY at least (I assume most other states) billable time is charged in 15 minute intervals.

                    Having a custom time allowance doesn't make sense IMO.

                    NY actually passed a law stating you have to bill in 15 minute increments?

                    Sorry, I doubt that. Though it is NY.

                    Not a "bill your client in 15 minute increments" but you have to pay your employees on 15 minute increments.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                      @jaredbusch said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                      @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                      @dbeato said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                      How can we add custom time to the helpdesk?
                      0_1516859279579_DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180125004722.png
                      Right now those are the only options I see in minutes.

                      This part I can agree with, in NY at least (I assume most other states) billable time is charged in 15 minute intervals.

                      Having a custom time allowance doesn't make sense IMO.

                      NY actually passed a law stating you have to bill in 15 minute increments?

                      Sorry, I doubt that. Though it is NY.

                      Not a "bill your client in 15 minute increments" but you have to pay your employees on 15 minute increments.

                      What does paying your employees in 15 minute increments have to do with putting in tickets in 15 minute increments?

                      Also I still find it hard to believe that this is a NY labor law, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @jaredbusch said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                        @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                        @jaredbusch said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                        @dustinb3403 said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                        @dbeato said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                        How can we add custom time to the helpdesk?
                        0_1516859279579_DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180125004722.png
                        Right now those are the only options I see in minutes.

                        This part I can agree with, in NY at least (I assume most other states) billable time is charged in 15 minute intervals.

                        Having a custom time allowance doesn't make sense IMO.

                        NY actually passed a law stating you have to bill in 15 minute increments?

                        Sorry, I doubt that. Though it is NY.

                        Not a "bill your client in 15 minute increments" but you have to pay your employees on 15 minute increments.

                        What does paying your employees in 15 minute increments have to do with putting in tickets in 15 minute increments?

                        Also I still find it hard to believe that this is a NY labor law, but it wouldn't surprise me.

                        It was my interpretation of the function. Which I've said disregard it, already if that isn't the intended purpose.

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                        • dbeatoD
                          dbeato
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                          IN NJ for example I can bill by the minute, I used to bill in 8 or 12 minutes increments.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @dbeato
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                            @dbeato said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                            IN NJ for example I can bill by the minute, I used to bill in 8 or 12 minutes increments.

                            Seems arbitrary - did you have a reason for that?
                            I bill clients on the 15 min, have to include the transition time they are costing me.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @dashrender said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                              @dbeato said in SodiumSuite Helpdesk Time:

                              IN NJ for example I can bill by the minute, I used to bill in 8 or 12 minutes increments.

                              Seems arbitrary - did you have a reason for that?
                              I bill clients on the 15 min, have to include the transition time they are costing me.

                              It's all arbitrary.

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