Fitness and Weightloss
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@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
Because when the calorie intake you are used to quickly drops, your body reacts defensively and only causes more problems, even if not immediately noticible.
That's not universal. That's one of those "averages" that applies to the median, but is different for different people. The human body varies far more than doctors want to tell you, which is often why they have no idea what is going on with it.
I've seen large and thorough studies about it. There's a lot more to it than I mentioned, but that's the gist.
Yes, but the studies are about the median. That's the problem with medical studies, most come up with averages and present it as "this is how humans are", but it's just how the median human is. There are some really cool studies about how all those studies are wrong and those kinds of findings are fundamentally wrong.
It's just like body temperature. The average human is 98.6, but actual individuals' normal temp varies quite a bit.
My average body temp is 97.6, well below the normal..
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@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
Because when the calorie intake you are used to quickly drops, your body reacts defensively and only causes more problems, even if not immediately noticible.
That's not universal. That's one of those "averages" that applies to the median, but is different for different people. The human body varies far more than doctors want to tell you, which is often why they have no idea what is going on with it.
I've seen large and thorough studies about it. There's a lot more to it than I mentioned, but that's the gist.
Yes, but the studies are about the median. That's the problem with medical studies, most come up with averages and present it as "this is how humans are", but it's just how the median human is. There are some really cool studies about how all those studies are wrong and those kinds of findings are fundamentally wrong.
It's just like body temperature. The average human is 98.6, but actual individuals' normal temp varies quite a bit.
My average body temp is 97.6, well below the normal..
that's really close to mine. I'm around 97.7. It's partially why I get warm so easily and need to sleep so cold.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
It's a fascinating article, and really informational about how we think about averages.
Averages have nothing to do with it. Nobody is talking about averages in all humans.
We're talking about only over weight and obese humans only.
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Here's one, there are much better and newer ones but I don't have time to search now what I've done years ago.
https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2811g3r3#main
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@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
Here's one, there are much better and newer ones but I don't have time to search now what I've done years ago.
https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2811g3r3#main
The problem here is diet versus diet - are you going on a diet - a temporary change of what you eat to loose weight, OR are you changing what you eat for life to have a lasting effect.
Now I'll put it out there without any science to back me up, that I believe that a huge part of our issue is the crap we eat today - it's loaded with chemicals, etc. If we moved back to more natural foods and less processed flours, sugars, etc, likely we'd be better off health wise all the way around.
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@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
Now I'll put it out there without any science to back me up, that I believe that a huge part of our issue is the crap we eat today - it's loaded with chemicals, etc. If we moved back to more natural foods and less processed flours, sugars, etc, likely we'd be better off health wise all the way around.
There is tons of science that backs that up. The problem is it's swept under the rug and not well known.
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@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
Now I'll put it out there without any science to back me up, that I believe that a huge part of our issue is the crap we eat today - it's loaded with chemicals, etc. If we moved back to more natural foods and less processed flours, sugars, etc, likely we'd be better off health wise all the way around.
Eating in Europe or LATAM, you feel the benefits almost immediately. And I know people with things like gluten allergies in the US that can suddenly eat gluten in other places.
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@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
Now I'll put it out there without any science to back me up, that I believe that a huge part of our issue is the crap we eat today - it's loaded with chemicals, etc. If we moved back to more natural foods and less processed flours, sugars, etc, likely we'd be better off health wise all the way around.
There is tons of science that backs that up. The problem is it's swept under the rug and not well known.
No real need for science, pretty basic common sense tells us as much
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So combine bad for us food with simply eating to much food (way more than our bodies need) definitely lead us to bad health.
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@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
So combine bad for us food with simply eating to much food (way more than our bodies need) definitely lead us to bad health.
Exercise and sleep is also a big factor.
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@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
So combine bad for us food with simply eating to much food (way more than our bodies need) definitely lead us to bad health.
Exercise and sleep is also a big factor.
I'm failing on the sleep part currently.
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@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
So combine bad for us food with simply eating to much food (way more than our bodies need) definitely lead us to bad health.
Exercise and sleep is also a big factor.
I should add that I did a lot to fix my sleep patterns this past year. Getting more sleep now. But still struggle to simply stay asleep over six hours.
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@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
So combine bad for us food with simply eating to much food (way more than our bodies need) definitely lead us to bad health.
Exercise and sleep is also a big factor.
I'm failing on the sleep part currently.
Me too. My body wants to be asleep 9-5 and awake all night. It's been tough to reverse that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Obsolesce said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@Dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:
So combine bad for us food with simply eating to much food (way more than our bodies need) definitely lead us to bad health.
Exercise and sleep is also a big factor.
I should add that I did a lot to fix my sleep patterns this past year. Getting more sleep now. But still struggle to simply stay asleep over six hours.
I'm kinda in the same boat most days...
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My sleep isn't so great either. Exercise has helped with that in the past even with getting up earlier, but I have seen the gym for a few months now
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I'm fascinated by the number of people who report issues with sleep these days. I've never had trouble sleeping and my body has always demanded 8-9 hours nightly. For those of you who struggle with it, have you ever seen a physician about it? Do you have any ideas as to why it's tough for you and things you think would help?
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@zachary715 said in Fitness and Weightloss:
I'm fascinated by the number of people who report issues with sleep these days. I've never had trouble sleeping and my body has always demanded 8-9 hours nightly. For those of you who struggle with it, have you ever seen a physician about it? Do you have any ideas as to why it's tough for you and things you think would help?
I don't have "issues" per se. It's just that my body doesn't let me sleep more than six hours, that's all the sleep my body can stand.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@zachary715 said in Fitness and Weightloss:
I'm fascinated by the number of people who report issues with sleep these days. I've never had trouble sleeping and my body has always demanded 8-9 hours nightly. For those of you who struggle with it, have you ever seen a physician about it? Do you have any ideas as to why it's tough for you and things you think would help?
I don't have "issues" per se. It's just that my body doesn't let me sleep more than six hours, that's all the sleep my body can stand.
Ok and do you feel rested after these 6 hours? If so, I think I would actually prefer that.
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@zachary715 said in Fitness and Weightloss:
I'm fascinated by the number of people who report issues with sleep these days. I've never had trouble sleeping and my body has always demanded 8-9 hours nightly. For those of you who struggle with it, have you ever seen a physician about it? Do you have any ideas as to why it's tough for you and things you think would help?
Oh my body demands 9+ hours, but that's near impossible for me with having to be at work during normal biz hours (mostly). I try to catch up on weekends, but it doesn't help. As far as seeing a doctor, I'm afraid of what I might do blacked out on ambien. Don't want to burn the house down by trying to cook something in my sleep.
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@zachary715 said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:
@zachary715 said in Fitness and Weightloss:
I'm fascinated by the number of people who report issues with sleep these days. I've never had trouble sleeping and my body has always demanded 8-9 hours nightly. For those of you who struggle with it, have you ever seen a physician about it? Do you have any ideas as to why it's tough for you and things you think would help?
I don't have "issues" per se. It's just that my body doesn't let me sleep more than six hours, that's all the sleep my body can stand.
Ok and do you feel rested after these 6 hours? If so, I think I would actually prefer that.
Oh yeah. Totally rested. Dont normally get tired again for about 19 hours.
