Anyone not at Spiceworld able to take care of the hooker spam in the meantime?

@scottalanmiller said in UREs Strike InnoDB on MySQL:

@Pete-S said in UREs Strike InnoDB on MySQL:

Step one is to remove the drives and clone them with dd or recovery tool to a new drive.
You could probably recover 99.9% of the data - if you want.

As you can guess from all of their previous issues, they don't want to pay for any recovery, they just want it magically fixed for free. They don't own any storage onto which to clone it, either.

Then what is the point of any of it? It appears to have zero value to the business.

@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

You feel like you are arguing

So now you're telling me how I feel?

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@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

@Obsolesce said in The Death of Sysadmin:

@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

But Agile != XP.

Right, XP is a type of Agile development... Where as they are not a type of DevOps.

Obviously. Why do you keep restating things like this as if someone said something different?

Because, the way you are saying things makes it seem, to me, that you think the opposite or something different.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting all of your replies, but my gist of them is that you and I don't agree with what DevOps is, or maybe you are learning and agreeing in real-time. I don't know. Maybe you are saying the things I am but in a less specific way and I'm not catching it. Again, I don't know.

But what I do know, is I'm not knowingly restating things you think you said or implied.

@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

But Agile != XP.

Right, XP is a type of Agile development... Where as they are not a type of DevOps.

@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

@Obsolesce said in The Death of Sysadmin:

@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

@Obsolesce said in The Death of Sysadmin:

@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

CI/CD is also one of those things that is just "one approach" in both IT and Dev circles. XP made it popular, it existed before but no one talked about it, and XP was only popular in "what people have heard of", not what people actively do. The majority of developers don't use it today. And many, maybe a majority or maybe not, don't think that it is appropriate even today. Regular integration is important, but many people believe that frequest, rather than continuous, is a better approach.

It's much like test first. It is a recent concept, not an old one. And while essentially all developers and DevOps know what it is, extremely few adopt it. It's today where CI was eight years ago.

Are you referring to the Agile approach of working? That's not the same thing as DevOps.

Um, duh. Agile is one approach to dev, one that promotes CI. I think you just stated by point, you are assuming one aspect of Agile dev and assuming that all DevOps comes from one bit of Agile dev, which isn't true at all.

I think you are wrong here.

Agile is not the same thing as DevOps

How does repeating what I said make me wrong? I keep saying that they are not the same. Not sure what you think you are arguing against. Nothing I've said in any way conflates the two.

No, you are saying certain things are one approach to DevOps. That's what I don't agree with. In your example, XP is not an approach to DevOps because DevOps is one thing, and XP is another. You can have DevOps or XP totally without the other.

You now normally would use Agile with DevOps as a team because it just makes sense. You can't compete without doing so, or you'll be left in the dust by other competing software companies that are.

@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

@Obsolesce said in The Death of Sysadmin:

@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

CI/CD is also one of those things that is just "one approach" in both IT and Dev circles. XP made it popular, it existed before but no one talked about it, and XP was only popular in "what people have heard of", not what people actively do. The majority of developers don't use it today. And many, maybe a majority or maybe not, don't think that it is appropriate even today. Regular integration is important, but many people believe that frequest, rather than continuous, is a better approach.

It's much like test first. It is a recent concept, not an old one. And while essentially all developers and DevOps know what it is, extremely few adopt it. It's today where CI was eight years ago.

Are you referring to the Agile approach of working? That's not the same thing as DevOps.

Um, duh. Agile is one approach to dev, one that promotes CI. I think you just stated by point, you are assuming one aspect of Agile dev and assuming that all DevOps comes from one bit of Agile dev, which isn't true at all.

I think you are wrong here.

Agile is not the same thing as DevOps

@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

CI/CD is also one of those things that is just "one approach" in both IT and Dev circles. XP made it popular, it existed before but no one talked about it, and XP was only popular in "what people have heard of", not what people actively do. The majority of developers don't use it today. And many, maybe a majority or maybe not, don't think that it is appropriate even today. Regular integration is important, but many people believe that frequest, rather than continuous, is a better approach.

It's much like test first. It is a recent concept, not an old one. And while essentially all developers and DevOps know what it is, extremely few adopt it. It's today where CI was eight years ago.

Are you referring to the Agile approach of working? That's not the same thing as DevOps.

@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

@IRJ said in The Death of Sysadmin:

@scottalanmiller said in The Death of Sysadmin:

@Emad-R said in The Death of Sysadmin:

The number of servers one sysadmin is handling is increasing and increasing, I think even you said it yourself.
back in the day 1 sysadmin can manage = few servers, afterward it is 50-100, now it is expected to be able to manage 100-500. One day we wouldn't need to manage anything.

Yes, but then the value and expertise of that system admin keep increasing, too. And there are loads and loads of private clouds. Each cloud is the new "computer".

Exactly what we call DevOPs now is the new System Admin. They are higher paid and more knowledgeable. Things have been going this way for awhile so you should not be surprised. Imagine what you'd be worth if you had AWS / Azure certifications right now

In fact, this is an opportunity for you to go this route. You have to leave the old mentality behind to grow in a new, ever changing environment.

And really, only barely different than we were back in 2006. DevOps isn't really new, just a new "brand name" on the same work that we did then. If we moved my 2006 environment into 2019 with zero changes, we'd call it devops.

What were you using in 2006 for your CI/CD pipelines?