I can't even
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@carnival-boy said in I can't even:
@jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.
This is every phishing email ever.
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@jaredbusch said in I can't even:
@carnival-boy said in I can't even:
@jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.
This is every phishing email ever.
Shit.. I have to admit - if I gave to craps about HD music, I would have fallen for that one if it was fake... yeah, bad form Amazon!
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What are they supposed to do?
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@jaredbusch
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@jaredbusch said in I can't even:
@carnival-boy said in I can't even:
@jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.
This is every phishing email ever.
Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?
Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.
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@pmoncho said in I can't even:
@jaredbusch said in I can't even:
@carnival-boy said in I can't even:
@jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.
This is every phishing email ever.
Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?
Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.
It is a legitimate email from Amazon. But it is nothing but a click bait click here to get something free email. When you work and work and work to train your users to not click on shit it seems too good to be true, but then a legitimate company sends out bullshit like this.
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@jaredbusch said in I can't even:
@pmoncho said in I can't even:
@jaredbusch said in I can't even:
@carnival-boy said in I can't even:
@jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.
This is every phishing email ever.
Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?
Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.
It is a legitimate email from Amazon. But it is nothing but a click bait click here to get something free email. When you work and work and work to train your users to not click on shit it seems too good to be true, but then a legitimate company sends out bullshit like this.
Other than smarter users, I don't see this problem going away.
Vendors know they need to present a near zero friction experience if they want customers - i.e. putting in a plan text link like amzn.com/shorturl and asking the customer to copy and paste it into a browser is a fail, and a fail for more than one reason.
Sadly - even the smartest, most well intention people will get tripped up - was tired, super busy and not paying close attention, etc..
While I completely agree with JB that ads like this one (email ads) just suck!, I don't see even legit ones ever going away
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@jaredbusch said in I can't even:
@pmoncho said in I can't even:
@jaredbusch said in I can't even:
@carnival-boy said in I can't even:
@jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.
This is every phishing email ever.
Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?
Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.
It is a legitimate email from Amazon. But it is nothing but a click bait click here to get something free email. When you work and work and work to train your users to not click on shit it seems too good to be true, but then a legitimate company sends out bullshit like this.
Agreed. With the forever issues these emails provide, as @Dashrender pointed out, the best I can hope for is to continue training users and always tell them to hover over the link before clicking to verify the address. Plus my added statement, "If you don't know, the answer is NO!"
From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.
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How is it clickbait? Amazon HD music (CD quality audio) used to be about $5 extra for subscribers, they've now made it free. This is a good thing if you're an audiophile and surely Amazon customers will appreciate getting a heads-up?
It's a sign of healthy competition in the music streaming industry with Amazon, Tidal, Apple, Google and Spotify at each others throats.
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@carnival-boy said in I can't even:
How is it clickbait? Amazon HD music (CD quality audio) used to be about $5 extra for subscribers, they've now made it free. This is a good thing if you're an audiophile and surely Amazon customers will appreciate getting a heads-up?
It's a sign of healthy competition in the music streaming industry with Amazon, Tidal, Apple, Google and Spotify at each others throats.
that might all be true - but it's also bad training for users.
We spend our time trying to train users not to click on shit, and amazon sends stuff like this that makes it a bit more difficult to know exactly what it's doing or where its going.
Yeah, it's not click-bait per se, but definitely not what I would consider good form today.
And here's Skyetel doing the same damned thing
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@dashrender like I asked before, what are they supposed to do?
I want links in e-mails from my subscription providers. I don't want to have to navigate around the portal trying to find something just because some people don't like links.
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@pmoncho said in I can't even:
From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.
What does the Oxford Dictionary say? The word unlimited doesn't imply anything regarding audio quality.
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@carnival-boy said in I can't even:
@pmoncho said in I can't even:
From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.
What does the Oxford Dictionary say? The word unlimited doesn't imply anything regarding audio quality.
Oxford says the following:
"not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent."My view is that the HD would be included in the "extent" part of the definition. So if streaming music tech has spread/extended to HD, it should be included as part of the Unlimited account.
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@pmoncho said in I can't even:
@carnival-boy said in I can't even:
@pmoncho said in I can't even:
From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.
What does the Oxford Dictionary say? The word unlimited doesn't imply anything regarding audio quality.
Oxford says the following:
"not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent."My view is that the HD would be included in the "extent" part of the definition. So if streaming music tech has spread/extended to HD, it should be included as part of the Unlimited account.
I think I agree. For example, if you had quality limits and opened up better quality you might say that you now offer "unlimited quality" or "unlimited quality options."
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@carnival-boy said in I can't even:
@dashrender like I asked before, what are they supposed to do?
I want links in e-mails from my subscription providers. I don't want to have to navigate around the portal trying to find something just because some people don't like links.
Except the Skyetel Enroll Now! button does not go to Skyetel.
It goes to list-manage.com
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So, if you are supposed to be some awesome cloud expert (see bluestingray.com)............
How the fuck do you not know who an IP belongs to?
Oh look, it belongs to NetStuite... The customer's ERP.....
[jbusch@d-jared ~]$ whois 208.46.212.86 [Querying whois.arin.net] [whois.arin.net] # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at: https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/tou/ # # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at # https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/inaccuracy_reporting/ # # Copyright 1997-2021, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd. # # start NetRange: 208.44.0.0 - 208.47.255.255 CIDR: 208.44.0.0/14 NetName: CENTURYLINK-LEGACY-QWEST-INET-3 NetHandle: NET-208-44-0-0-1 Parent: NET208 (NET-208-0-0-0-0) NetType: Direct Allocation OriginAS: Organization: CenturyLink Communications, LLC (CCL-534) RegDate: 1999-06-24 Updated: 2018-02-21 Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/208.44.0.0 OrgName: CenturyLink Communications, LLC OrgId: CCL-534 Address: 100 CENTURYLINK DR City: Monroe StateProv: LA PostalCode: 71201 Country: US RegDate: 2018-07-12 Updated: 2021-03-11 Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE ANY ISP ANNOUNCING PORTIONS WITHIN OUR RANGE SHOULD NOT RELY ON PRESENTED LOA'S UNLESS THOSE RANGES ARE ALSO ANNOUNCED TO A CENTURYLINK ASN. Comment: Comment: For abuse issues, please email [email protected] Comment: All abuse reports MUST include: Comment: * src IP Comment: * dest IP (your IP) Comment: * dest port Comment: * Accurate date/timestamp and timezone of activity Comment: * Intensity/frequency (short log extracts) Comment: * Your contact details (phone and email) Comment: Without these we will be unable to identify the correct owner of the IP address at that point in time. Comment: Comment: For subpoena or court order please fax 844.254.5800 or refer to our Law Enforcement Support page: Comment: Comment: https://www.centurylink.com/aboutus/legal/privacy-notice/law-enforcement-support.html Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/CCL-534 OrgAbuseHandle: CAD54-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Centurylink Abuse Desk OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-886-6515 OrgAbuseEmail: [email protected] OrgAbuseRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/CAD54-ARIN OrgTechHandle: QIA-ARIN OrgTechName: Centurylink IP Admin OrgTechPhone: +1-877-886-6515 OrgTechEmail: [email protected] OrgTechRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/QIA-ARIN # end # start NetRange: 208.46.212.0 - 208.46.212.255 CIDR: 208.46.212.0/24 NetName: SAVV-S233229-0 NetHandle: NET-208-46-212-0-1 Parent: CENTURYLINK-LEGACY-QWEST-INET-3 (NET-208-44-0-0-1) NetType: Reassigned OriginAS: Organization: NetSuite, Inc. (NETSU-17) RegDate: 2015-05-28 Updated: 2015-05-28 Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/208.46.212.0 OrgName: NetSuite, Inc. OrgId: NETSU-17 Address: 2955 Campus Drive Address: Suite 175 City: San Mateo StateProv: CA PostalCode: 94403 Country: US RegDate: 2015-05-28 Updated: 2015-05-28 Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/NETSU-17 OrgAbuseHandle: NATAR4-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Natarajan, Kanakarajan OrgAbusePhone: +1-925-963-2402 OrgAbuseEmail: [email protected] OrgAbuseRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/NATAR4-ARIN OrgTechHandle: NATAR4-ARIN OrgTechName: Natarajan, Kanakarajan OrgTechPhone: +1-925-963-2402 OrgTechEmail: [email protected] OrgTechRef: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/NATAR4-ARIN # end # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at: https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/tou/ # # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at # https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/inaccuracy_reporting/ # # Copyright 1997-2021, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd. #Maybe your AwesomeSite_06 is not so awesome after all.
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Ever wonder why the competition is so cheap....
The vendor that got a large account from us, and honestly they've been great to work with for handover up till now, asked us today to train them on how to manage phone systems as "part of the handover process"... three weeks after our engagement with the account had ended.
Um.... what? No.
They needed training on things like "how to log in" and "how to add a new user" and "how to attach a phone."
For the record, this is FreePBX running totally vanilla, that we didn't even set up!
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
Ever wonder why the competition is so cheap....
The vendor that got a large account from us, and honestly they've been great to work with for handover up till now, asked us today to train them on how to manage phone systems as "part of the handover process"... three weeks after our engagement with the account had ended.
Um.... what? No.
They needed training on things like "how to log in" and "how to add a new user" and "how to attach a phone."
For the record, this is FreePBX running totally vanilla, that we didn't even set up!
That's a WTF, not just a "I can't even,.."
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
Ever wonder why the competition is so cheap....
The vendor that got a large account from us, and honestly they've been great to work with for handover up till now, asked us today to train them on how to manage phone systems as "part of the handover process"... three weeks after our engagement with the account had ended.
Um.... what? No.
They needed training on things like "how to log in" and "how to add a new user" and "how to attach a phone."
For the record, this is FreePBX running totally vanilla, that we didn't even set up!
Wow... just, wow.
Channeling @JaredBusch FFS!
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Nothing like having a brand new $10,000 IoT device that has now 'crashed' and is outside of the scope of IT for support - and IT has to support it.... oFFS!
What IoT device costs $10k? A medical camera -
