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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco @Obsolesce
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      @tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

      Watch out for those natural flavors, they're tricking your brain!

      https://foodbabe.com/natural-flavors-really-bad-must-watch/

      Got any better sources for that story? Vani Hari is a fucking charlatan who uses her mindless minions to attack companies she doesn't like - when they decide to yield to the pressure, she gets an overpaid consulting gig with that company. Everything she writes or does is strictly motivated by money and extremely misguided, non-scientific opinions. To paraphrase the article below, she's the Dr. Oz of food. Taking her advice on anything is kinda like taking advice from Gwyneth Paltrow.

      https://respectfulinsolence.com/2015/03/17/vani-hari-a-k-a-the-food-babe-responds-to-the-new-york-times-ineptly-as-usual/

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @RojoLoco
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        @rojoloco said in Fitness and Weightloss:

        Got any better sources for that story?

        Is 'Natural Flavor' Healthier Than 'Artificial Flavor'?
        https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/11/03/560048780/is-natural-flavor-healthier-than-artificial-flavor

        Natural Flavors: Should You Eat Them?
        https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/natural-flavors

        The Dorito Effect: The Surprising New Truth About Food and Flavor
        https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1476724237

        What are natural flavors, really?
        https://www.cnn.com/2015/01/14/health/feat-natural-flavors-explained/index.html

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce
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          Hearts Get 'Younger,' Even At Middle Age, With Exercise
          (Start now before it's too late. If you're under 70 years old, it will help a lot!)
          https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/03/12/591513777/hearts-get-younger-even-at-middle-age-with-exercise?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180312

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          • PenguinWranglerP
            PenguinWrangler
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            I am down 28 lbs . Should be hitting in the 270s next week. Just posted this in another thread but thought I would here too as it relates here. I have given up all forms of processed sugar. Sugar is so insidious and addictive. I already gave up most sugar, but I recently switched to standard creamer for my coffee and not the flavored sugar filled kind. That was one of the last spots of sugar for me. I am now completely sugar free. I am staying away from restaurants as well, at least as much as I can, and trying to order at restaurants very carefully.

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            • mlnewsM
              mlnews
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              https://www.tastecooking.com/caul-me-by-your-name/

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              • mlnewsM
                mlnews
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                Should Chinese takeaway have warning labels?

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                • momurdaM
                  momurda @mlnews
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                  @mlnews said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                  https://www.tastecooking.com/caul-me-by-your-name/

                  The worst vegetable in the world masquerading as rice.

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                  • PenguinWranglerP
                    PenguinWrangler @momurda
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                    @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                    @mlnews said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                    https://www.tastecooking.com/caul-me-by-your-name/

                    The worst vegetable in the world masquerading as rice.

                    I disagree. I like Cauliflower as a substitute for other things, potatoes, rice etc. The worst vegetable in the world goes to beets, especially if they are pickled. However, I do like beet juice in my home juicer.

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                    • RojoLocoR
                      RojoLoco
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                      Beets are pretty freaking awful... but cauliflower is definitely bottom 5.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @PenguinWrangler
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                        @penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                        @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                        @mlnews said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                        https://www.tastecooking.com/caul-me-by-your-name/

                        The worst vegetable in the world masquerading as rice.

                        I disagree. I like Cauliflower as a substitute for other things, potatoes, rice etc. The worst vegetable in the world goes to beets, especially if they are pickled. However, I do like beet juice in my home juicer.

                        I'd rather have broccoli and sweet potatoes than cauliflower.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                          @tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                          @penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                          @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                          @mlnews said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                          https://www.tastecooking.com/caul-me-by-your-name/

                          The worst vegetable in the world masquerading as rice.

                          I disagree. I like Cauliflower as a substitute for other things, potatoes, rice etc. The worst vegetable in the world goes to beets, especially if they are pickled. However, I do like beet juice in my home juicer.

                          I'd rather have broccoli and sweet potatoes than cauliflower.

                          I love sweet potatoes - but still high in carbs.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                            @tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                            @penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                            @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                            @mlnews said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                            https://www.tastecooking.com/caul-me-by-your-name/

                            The worst vegetable in the world masquerading as rice.

                            I disagree. I like Cauliflower as a substitute for other things, potatoes, rice etc. The worst vegetable in the world goes to beets, especially if they are pickled. However, I do like beet juice in my home juicer.

                            I'd rather have broccoli and sweet potatoes than cauliflower.

                            I love sweet potatoes - but still high in carbs.

                            Not the same kind of carbs regular potatoes and white rice have. Sweet potato carbs are what you want.

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1
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                              I haven't dropped anymore weight (which is a good thing, I'm close to where I should be.) My blood pressure is down to 98/60 at rest now tho, yay.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22
                                last edited by wirestyle22

                                Laura forced me into a doctors office expecting everything to be bad and I'm actually on the lower side of normal in everything. Eat it Laura

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                                  @wirestyle22 said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                  Laura forced me into a doctors office expecting everything to be bad and I'm actually on the lower side of normal in everything. Eat it Laura

                                  That usually means bad - being on the low end that is.

                                  Low blood pressure, low sugar levels, low cholesterol (good and bad)

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                                    @dustinb3403 said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                    Laura forced me into a doctors office expecting everything to be bad and I'm actually on the lower side of normal in everything. Eat it Laura

                                    That usually means bad - being on the low end that is.

                                    Low blood pressure, low sugar levels, low cholesterol (good and bad)

                                    Lower end of the normal range

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                                    • PenguinWranglerP
                                      PenguinWrangler @Obsolesce
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                                      @tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                      @penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                      @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                      @mlnews said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                      https://www.tastecooking.com/caul-me-by-your-name/

                                      The worst vegetable in the world masquerading as rice.

                                      I disagree. I like Cauliflower as a substitute for other things, potatoes, rice etc. The worst vegetable in the world goes to beets, especially if they are pickled. However, I do like beet juice in my home juicer.

                                      I'd rather have broccoli and sweet potatoes than cauliflower.

                                      I didn't say cauliflower was the best. It just is useful. My favorite veggie would have to be carrots, followed closely by turnip greens.

                                      @tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                      @penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                      @momurda said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                      @mlnews said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                      https://www.tastecooking.com/caul-me-by-your-name/

                                      The worst vegetable in the world masquerading as rice.

                                      I disagree. I like Cauliflower as a substitute for other things, potatoes, rice etc. The worst vegetable in the world goes to beets, especially if they are pickled. However, I do like beet juice in my home juicer.

                                      I'd rather have broccoli and sweet potatoes than cauliflower.

                                      I didn't say cauliflower was the best veggie just useful. I like carrots the best followed closely by turnip greens.

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                                      • s.hacklemanS
                                        s.hackleman
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                                        Just my 2 cents, but we need to be clear when we define what we are trying to say when we talk about health on this thread. Health and nutrition is very complicated and there is no best practice defined, it isn't like IT. I think for arguments sake we need to say if our goal in a suggestion is to loose weight, build muscle, run for distance, live longer, or what. As a culture especially in the US we see marathon runners and weight lifters and think, now that is healthy, but the reality is the runners and weight lifters who preform at the top level, die really young. Even if we post the magical formula of what is "healthy", it doesn't work for everyone. Some people at a genetic level do not thrive on the same diet and habits as another human. So be careful when talking about what is "best" for "health" and be clear what your goals are in making any change to your routine. Lastly, there are some things that are agreed upon. Being obese is bad, and it will kill you, so eat a little better, and try to maintain a decently healthy lifestyle. and let's not get stuck in the weeds about what is the best way to do it.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @s.hackleman
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                                          @s-hackleman said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                          Just my 2 cents, but we need to be clear when we define what we are trying to say when we talk about health on this thread. Health and nutrition is very complicated and there is no best practice defined, it isn't like IT. I think for arguments sake we need to say if our goal in a suggestion is to loose weight, build muscle, run for distance, live longer, or what. As a culture especially in the US we see marathon runners and weight lifters and think, now that is healthy, but the reality is the runners and weight lifters who preform at the top level, die really young. Even if we post the magical formula of what is "healthy", it doesn't work for everyone. Some people at a genetic level do not thrive on the same diet and habits as another human. So be careful when talking about what is "best" for "health" and be clear what your goals are in making any change to your routine. Lastly, there are some things that are agreed upon. Being obese is bad, and it will kill you, so eat a little better, and try to maintain a decently healthy lifestyle. and let's not get stuck in the weeds about what is the best way to do it.

                                          I'm always speaking in the context of better health overall, which is a good balance of everything, where the below IS a best practice (to your best ability):

                                          • Diet
                                            • Avoid processed foods and drinks
                                            • Avoid added sugars
                                            • Avoid bad carbs (breads, potato, white rice, pastries, cereals, etc)
                                            • Go for unprocessed, more natural foods: (natually a more healthy choice by default)
                                              • walnuts, pecans, peanuts, etc.
                                              • peas, broccoli, spinach, etc.
                                              • avocado, sweet potato / yam, whole oats, etc.
                                              • tuna, salmon, turkey, black beans, etc.
                                              • banana, dates, berries, etc.
                                          • Sleep
                                            • 8.5 hours "in bed"
                                            • 7-8 hours of actual sleeping
                                              • if this is difficult, try "sleep compression"
                                          • Exercise
                                            • Strength Training (muscle, bone, heart, lung health)
                                            • Cardio (heart and lung health)
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                                            Francesco Provino @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                            @s-hackleman said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                            Just my 2 cents, but we need to be clear when we define what we are trying to say when we talk about health on this thread. Health and nutrition is very complicated and there is no best practice defined, it isn't like IT. I think for arguments sake we need to say if our goal in a suggestion is to loose weight, build muscle, run for distance, live longer, or what. As a culture especially in the US we see marathon runners and weight lifters and think, now that is healthy, but the reality is the runners and weight lifters who preform at the top level, die really young. Even if we post the magical formula of what is "healthy", it doesn't work for everyone. Some people at a genetic level do not thrive on the same diet and habits as another human. So be careful when talking about what is "best" for "health" and be clear what your goals are in making any change to your routine. Lastly, there are some things that are agreed upon. Being obese is bad, and it will kill you, so eat a little better, and try to maintain a decently healthy lifestyle. and let's not get stuck in the weeds about what is the best way to do it.

                                            I'm always speaking in the context of better health overall, which is a good balance of everything, where the below IS a best practice (to your best ability):

                                            • Diet
                                              • Avoid processed foods and drinks
                                              • Avoid added sugars
                                              • Avoid bad carbs (breads, potato, white rice, pastries, cereals, etc)
                                              • Go for unprocessed, more natural foods: (natually a more healthy choice by default)
                                                • walnuts, pecans, peanuts, etc.
                                                • peas, broccoli, spinach, etc.
                                                • avocado, sweet potato / yam, whole oats, etc.
                                                • tuna, salmon, turkey, black beans, etc.
                                                • banana, dates, berries, etc.
                                            • Sleep
                                              • 8.5 hours "in bed"
                                              • 7-8 hours of actual sleeping
                                                • if this is difficult, try "sleep compression"
                                            • Exercise
                                              • Strength Training (muscle, bone, heart, lung health)
                                              • Cardio (heart and lung health)

                                            Well… for diet, you miss the first and most important point, the energy balance. You have to eat the right amount of calories per day, that’s the foundamental point. You can get this amount eating junk food or good stuff, but they are still calories.

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