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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @black3dynamite
      last edited by

      @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

      sudo dnf install openssh-askpass

      Or use ssh keys instead

      Tried both of those, no difference, still get the error

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      • black3dynamiteB
        black3dynamite @FATeknollogee
        last edited by black3dynamite

        @fateknollogee said in KVM Setup:

        @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

        sudo dnf install openssh-askpass

        Or use ssh keys instead

        Tried both of those, no difference, still get the error

        Are you connecting using root or your own login?
        Add yourself to libvirt group.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @black3dynamite
          last edited by

          @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

          Are you connecting usinf root or your own login?
          Add yourself to libvirt group.

          Tried connecting as root & myself, no diff, still get the error
          Yes, I have added myself to the libvirt group.

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          • KellyK
            Kelly
            last edited by

            All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @Kelly
              last edited by

              @kelly said in KVM Setup:

              All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

              SSH (I like Putty)

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              • black3dynamiteB
                black3dynamite @Kelly
                last edited by

                @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                You can use putty to ssh into the server and then use virsh commands to manage VMs.

                You can setup a Fedora VM and use a light desktop environment or just a windows manager only to help with using less resources and then install virt-manager. That's the same way I would do it when I need to manage a Hyper-V host from Fedora or any other distros.

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @black3dynamite
                  last edited by

                  @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

                  sudo dnf install openssh-askpass

                  Or use ssh keys instead

                  Ooops brain fart of the week...

                  I wasn't paying attention, I installed openssh-askpass on the host instead of my workstation....(that was pretty stupid)
                  All is good!!

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                    @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                    All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                    SSH (I like Putty)

                    Pretty much or running a Fedora VM. The command line tools are incredibly robust and very easy to learn.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @coliver
                      last edited by stacksofplates

                      @coliver said in KVM Setup:

                      @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                      @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                      All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                      SSH (I like Putty)

                      Pretty much or running a Fedora VM. The command line tools are incredibly robust and very easy to learn.

                      Ansible has a libvirt module as well (http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/virt_module.html). However it doesn't have clone because libvirt doesn't have a clone function. Virt-clone does a bunch of other work like snapshotting, copying, etc. And you can just run the commands with it like this simple setup here https://mangolassi.it/topic/15257/ansible-create-kvm-guests that builds a disk with virt-builder. By default the OS disks from virt-builder are really small (like 6GB), so you will need to add the logic in to create the second disk.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @stacksofplates
                        last edited by

                        @stacksofplates said in KVM Setup:

                        @coliver said in KVM Setup:

                        @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                        @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                        All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                        SSH (I like Putty)

                        Pretty much or running a Fedora VM. The command line tools are incredibly robust and very easy to learn.

                        Ansible has a libvirt module as well (http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/virt_module.html). However it doesn't have clone because libvirt doesn't have a clone function. Virt-clone does a bunch of other work like snapshotting, copying, etc. And you can just run the commands with it like this simple setup here https://mangolassi.it/topic/15257/ansible-create-kvm-guests that builds a disk with virt-builder. By default the OS disks from virt-builder are really small (like 6GB), so you will need to add the logic in to create the second disk.

                        I really need to dig into Ansible. AWX as well could be really useful.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said in KVM Setup:

                          @stacksofplates said in KVM Setup:

                          @coliver said in KVM Setup:

                          @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                          @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                          All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                          SSH (I like Putty)

                          Pretty much or running a Fedora VM. The command line tools are incredibly robust and very easy to learn.

                          Ansible has a libvirt module as well (http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/virt_module.html). However it doesn't have clone because libvirt doesn't have a clone function. Virt-clone does a bunch of other work like snapshotting, copying, etc. And you can just run the commands with it like this simple setup here https://mangolassi.it/topic/15257/ansible-create-kvm-guests that builds a disk with virt-builder. By default the OS disks from virt-builder are really small (like 6GB), so you will need to add the logic in to create the second disk.

                          I really need to dig into Ansible. AWX as well could be really useful.

                          I run AWX at home and Tower at work. It's really amazing how easy it makes everything.

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                          • KellyK
                            Kelly @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                            @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                            All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                            SSH (I like Putty)

                            @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

                            @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                            All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                            You can use putty to ssh into the server and then use virsh commands to manage VMs.

                            You can setup a Fedora VM and use a light desktop environment or just a windows manager only to help with using less resources and then install virt-manager. That's the same way I would do it when I need to manage a Hyper-V host from Fedora or any other distros.

                            Any GUI options?

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @Kelly
                              last edited by

                              @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                              @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                              @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                              All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                              SSH (I like Putty)

                              @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

                              @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                              All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                              You can use putty to ssh into the server and then use virsh commands to manage VMs.

                              You can setup a Fedora VM and use a light desktop environment or just a windows manager only to help with using less resources and then install virt-manager. That's the same way I would do it when I need to manage a Hyper-V host from Fedora or any other distros.

                              Any GUI options?

                              Not on Windows no. There is Kimchi which does an ok job of managing VMs but it's clunky and not as powerful as Hyper-V Manager or vCenter.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @Kelly
                                last edited by BRRABill

                                @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                                Any GUI options?

                                As a heavy (in more ways than one) Windows user, I found installing Fedora in a VM was the eaiest way when I was playing with this.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  It's the same in reverse too. How do you manage (via GUI) Hyper-V from Linux? You do it through a Win10 VM.

                                  How do you manage (via GUI) KVM from Windows? You do it through a Linux VM.

                                  That's really the easiest way to do it, without adding software to your hypervisors to be able to do it all via HTML5.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                                    It's the same in reverse too. How do you manage (via GUI) Hyper-V from Linux? You do it through a Win10 VM.

                                    How do you manage (via GUI) KVM from Windows? You do it through a Linux VM.

                                    That's really the easiest way to do it, without adding software to your hypervisors to be able to do it all via HTML5.

                                    XenServer doesn't have to add software to the hypervisor.

                                    But I think I'm going to setup a basic lab at the office for this. I want to test it out, really I do.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @dustinb3403 said in KVM Setup:

                                      XenServer doesn't have to add software to the hypervisor.

                                      Neither does KVM. IMO KVM has always been so much easier to use than XenServer. No weird proprietary formats. No strange matching UUIDs of disks to UUIDs of VMs. It's just super easy overall.

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                                        bnrstnr @stacksofplates
                                        last edited by

                                        @stacksofplates What is your distro of choice for running your Ansible "control machine?"

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @bnrstnr
                                          last edited by

                                          @bnrstnr said in KVM Setup:

                                          @stacksofplates What is your distro of choice for running your Ansible "control machine?"

                                          I use Fedora for AWX and Ansible core. For Tower, CentOS which is what they recommend.

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                                          • RomoR
                                            Romo @Kelly
                                            last edited by Romo

                                            @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                                            All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                                            Any GUI options?

                                            How about testing either of the following two options if you dont want to have a linux vm or manage everything with virsh. Can't test them properly myself since currenty working out of my office and dont have any KVM server available:

                                            If you have Win 10

                                            1. WSL (Windows Subsystem for LInux) + VcXsrv+ virt-manger
                                              0_1512074930450_wsl-virtmanager.png

                                            If you have Win 7 you can use Cygwin
                                            2. Cygwin + virtmanager
                                            0_1512074998777_cygwin-virtmanager.png

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