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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Emad R
      last edited by

      @emad-r said in KVM Setup:

      @jaredbusch said in KVM Setup:

      @emad-r said in KVM Setup:

      @jaredbusch said in KVM Setup:

      There is not a simple single command line choice for CentOS 7 after initial installation, but it is not difficult to follow any of the numerous guides on there on the subject.

      there is :

      yum groupinstall Virtualization "Virtualization Platform" "Virtualization Tools"
      

      Right from minimal install.

      My understanding of CentOS 7, as I have not used it for KVM, is that it subsequently needs some SELinux settings changed and then some networking setup.

      Nope, nothing needed. you can use it with default selinux policy right from the start. And no changes to network either, however if you will use Ovirt, it does many changes to the network interfaces and it actually adds an interface maybe due to vsdm and not Ovirt persay,

      However back to your question, you can fully use Centos 7 KVM with selinux without any changes, you just need virt-manager setup on another machine (Fedora for example) and connect to your centos 7 KVM and install Windows 10, which I did for the past month or so for training purposes.

      Yes, that is how I use KVM now, just on Fedora 26. When I looked at setting up my first KVM test system, I looked at CentOS 7 and Fedora 25 and the official instructions for both. The CentOS wiki was much more complicated than the Fedora wiki.

      Also, as I stated in another thread, I pretty much gave up caring about the LTS nature of CentOS in today's world.

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      • A
        Alex Sage
        last edited by Alex Sage

        So I installed Fedora 26 and selected headless virtualization.

        When I connect to it from my Korora 25 workstation I get this warning:

        0_1502237653417_Screenshot from 2017-08-08 20-08-57.png

        virtualization was off in the BIOS....

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @stacksofplates
          last edited by

          @stacksofplates said in KVM Setup:

          On Fedora under software choose headless virtualization:

          0_1502146216302_fedora.png

          I installed F26 & KVM via Headless Virt.
          Same thing like I've done many times...

          From my F27 desktop, I can not connect (see image for error msg)
          Any ideas before I decide to reinstall F26?

          0_1512008371378_Screenshot from 2017-11-29 18-18-12.png

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          • black3dynamiteB
            black3dynamite @FATeknollogee
            last edited by

            @fateknollogee said in KVM Setup:

            @stacksofplates said in KVM Setup:

            On Fedora under software choose headless virtualization:

            0_1502146216302_fedora.png

            I installed F26 & KVM via Headless Virt.
            Same thing like I've done many times...

            From my F27 desktop, I can not connect (see image for error msg)
            Any ideas before I decide to reinstall F26?

            0_1512008371378_Screenshot from 2017-11-29 18-18-12.png

            sudo dnf install openssh-askpass

            Or use ssh keys instead

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @black3dynamite
              last edited by

              @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

              sudo dnf install openssh-askpass

              Or use ssh keys instead

              Tried both of those, no difference, still get the error

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              • black3dynamiteB
                black3dynamite @FATeknollogee
                last edited by black3dynamite

                @fateknollogee said in KVM Setup:

                @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

                sudo dnf install openssh-askpass

                Or use ssh keys instead

                Tried both of those, no difference, still get the error

                Are you connecting using root or your own login?
                Add yourself to libvirt group.

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @black3dynamite
                  last edited by

                  @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

                  Are you connecting usinf root or your own login?
                  Add yourself to libvirt group.

                  Tried connecting as root & myself, no diff, still get the error
                  Yes, I have added myself to the libvirt group.

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                  • KellyK
                    Kelly
                    last edited by

                    All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @Kelly
                      last edited by

                      @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                      All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                      SSH (I like Putty)

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite @Kelly
                        last edited by

                        @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                        All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                        You can use putty to ssh into the server and then use virsh commands to manage VMs.

                        You can setup a Fedora VM and use a light desktop environment or just a windows manager only to help with using less resources and then install virt-manager. That's the same way I would do it when I need to manage a Hyper-V host from Fedora or any other distros.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee @black3dynamite
                          last edited by

                          @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

                          sudo dnf install openssh-askpass

                          Or use ssh keys instead

                          Ooops brain fart of the week...

                          I wasn't paying attention, I installed openssh-askpass on the host instead of my workstation....(that was pretty stupid)
                          All is good!!

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                            @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                            All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                            SSH (I like Putty)

                            Pretty much or running a Fedora VM. The command line tools are incredibly robust and very easy to learn.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @coliver
                              last edited by stacksofplates

                              @coliver said in KVM Setup:

                              @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                              @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                              All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                              SSH (I like Putty)

                              Pretty much or running a Fedora VM. The command line tools are incredibly robust and very easy to learn.

                              Ansible has a libvirt module as well (http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/virt_module.html). However it doesn't have clone because libvirt doesn't have a clone function. Virt-clone does a bunch of other work like snapshotting, copying, etc. And you can just run the commands with it like this simple setup here https://mangolassi.it/topic/15257/ansible-create-kvm-guests that builds a disk with virt-builder. By default the OS disks from virt-builder are really small (like 6GB), so you will need to add the logic in to create the second disk.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @stacksofplates
                                last edited by

                                @stacksofplates said in KVM Setup:

                                @coliver said in KVM Setup:

                                @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                                @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                                All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                                SSH (I like Putty)

                                Pretty much or running a Fedora VM. The command line tools are incredibly robust and very easy to learn.

                                Ansible has a libvirt module as well (http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/virt_module.html). However it doesn't have clone because libvirt doesn't have a clone function. Virt-clone does a bunch of other work like snapshotting, copying, etc. And you can just run the commands with it like this simple setup here https://mangolassi.it/topic/15257/ansible-create-kvm-guests that builds a disk with virt-builder. By default the OS disks from virt-builder are really small (like 6GB), so you will need to add the logic in to create the second disk.

                                I really need to dig into Ansible. AWX as well could be really useful.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said in KVM Setup:

                                  @stacksofplates said in KVM Setup:

                                  @coliver said in KVM Setup:

                                  @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                                  @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                                  All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                                  SSH (I like Putty)

                                  Pretty much or running a Fedora VM. The command line tools are incredibly robust and very easy to learn.

                                  Ansible has a libvirt module as well (http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/virt_module.html). However it doesn't have clone because libvirt doesn't have a clone function. Virt-clone does a bunch of other work like snapshotting, copying, etc. And you can just run the commands with it like this simple setup here https://mangolassi.it/topic/15257/ansible-create-kvm-guests that builds a disk with virt-builder. By default the OS disks from virt-builder are really small (like 6GB), so you will need to add the logic in to create the second disk.

                                  I really need to dig into Ansible. AWX as well could be really useful.

                                  I run AWX at home and Tower at work. It's really amazing how easy it makes everything.

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                                  • KellyK
                                    Kelly @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                                    @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                                    All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                                    SSH (I like Putty)

                                    @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

                                    @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                                    All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                                    You can use putty to ssh into the server and then use virsh commands to manage VMs.

                                    You can setup a Fedora VM and use a light desktop environment or just a windows manager only to help with using less resources and then install virt-manager. That's the same way I would do it when I need to manage a Hyper-V host from Fedora or any other distros.

                                    Any GUI options?

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @Kelly
                                      last edited by

                                      @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                                      @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                                      @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                                      All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                                      SSH (I like Putty)

                                      @black3dynamite said in KVM Setup:

                                      @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                                      All scorn and derision aside, if I wanted to manage a KVM host from Windows what are my options?

                                      You can use putty to ssh into the server and then use virsh commands to manage VMs.

                                      You can setup a Fedora VM and use a light desktop environment or just a windows manager only to help with using less resources and then install virt-manager. That's the same way I would do it when I need to manage a Hyper-V host from Fedora or any other distros.

                                      Any GUI options?

                                      Not on Windows no. There is Kimchi which does an ok job of managing VMs but it's clunky and not as powerful as Hyper-V Manager or vCenter.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @Kelly
                                        last edited by BRRABill

                                        @kelly said in KVM Setup:

                                        Any GUI options?

                                        As a heavy (in more ways than one) Windows user, I found installing Fedora in a VM was the eaiest way when I was playing with this.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          It's the same in reverse too. How do you manage (via GUI) Hyper-V from Linux? You do it through a Win10 VM.

                                          How do you manage (via GUI) KVM from Windows? You do it through a Linux VM.

                                          That's really the easiest way to do it, without adding software to your hypervisors to be able to do it all via HTML5.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @tim_g said in KVM Setup:

                                            It's the same in reverse too. How do you manage (via GUI) Hyper-V from Linux? You do it through a Win10 VM.

                                            How do you manage (via GUI) KVM from Windows? You do it through a Linux VM.

                                            That's really the easiest way to do it, without adding software to your hypervisors to be able to do it all via HTML5.

                                            XenServer doesn't have to add software to the hypervisor.

                                            But I think I'm going to setup a basic lab at the office for this. I want to test it out, really I do.

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