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    • FATeknollogee
      FATeknollogee last edited by FATeknollogee

      Anyone have experience with Alike from http://www.quadricsoftware.com/

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        LAH3385 @FATeknollogee last edited by LAH3385

        @FATeknollogee I'm guessing you are asking for alternative backup application to Quadrics. Right? What about Veeam? Don't think they support XenServer but I could be wrong.

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        • FATeknollogee
          FATeknollogee last edited by

          Interested in finding out if anyone has used Alike

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          • FATeknollogee
            FATeknollogee last edited by

            From the @QuadricSoftware twitter feed:
            ....Did you know Alike DR is the only solution that supports true replication for #XenServer? Try our 30-day free trial! ow.ly/XXCNb

            Maybe they haven't heard of @olivier

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            • scottalanmiller
              scottalanmiller last edited by

              I hate when you go to a website and poke around and never manage to find out what the product even is. I finally got to a page that started to have a description instead of marketing buzz and it starting comparing itself to... itself. My guess is their product isn't valuable enough to they focus on the buzz, rather than the facts.

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              • scottalanmiller
                scottalanmiller @LAH3385 last edited by

                @LAH3385 said:

                What about Veeam? Don't think they support XenServer but I could be wrong.

                They don't and they have stated that they won't. They say things like "the market is too small", which is obviously totally an attempt at misdirection. The market is enormous. The market that they could penetrate is tiny because of built in, free backups solutions like XO and NAUBackup and the paid market has long been dominated by Unitrends. Veeam is in no position to compete. They rely on marketing, like VMware does, and high cost sales tactics to move in a different world that would not only fail in the higher tech Xen world, but would actually hurt them.

                Their position in the VMware world is unparalleled, there is no reason for them to play in the Xen and KVM worlds where backups isn't an external component.

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                • FATeknollogee
                  FATeknollogee last edited by

                  None of you XS gurus know anything about this company or it's products?

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                  • DustinB3403
                    DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee last edited by

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    None of you XS gurus know anything about this company or it's products?

                    Never hear of it..

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                    • FATeknollogee
                      FATeknollogee last edited by

                      Any one with a Hyper-V + XS lab want to test the product & let us know?

                      Might be the greatest thing since sliced bread...:astonished:

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                        Deleted74295 Banned @FATeknollogee last edited by

                        @FATeknollogee said:

                        Any one with a Hyper-V + XS lab want to test the product & let us know?

                        Might be the greatest thing since sliced bread...:astonished:

                        Not really :)

                        You can have a look at their tutorials though
                        http://www.quadricsoftware.com/videos/

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                        • scottalanmiller
                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee last edited by

                          @FATeknollogee said:

                          Might be the greatest thing since sliced bread...:astonished:

                          What is interesting about it? What does it add that we are lacking?

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                          • FATeknollogee
                            FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            What is interesting about it? What does it add that we are lacking?

                            That was supposed to be a "sarcasm" emoji.

                            I was interested because it services XS & Hyper-V (which is something you had suggested to the folks at XO)
                            I use Hyper-V now & I've been looking (albeit still on the fence) at XS.

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                            • scottalanmiller
                              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee last edited by

                              @FATeknollogee said:

                              That was supposed to be a "sarcasm" emoji.

                              I was interested because it services XS & Hyper-V (which is something you had suggested to the folks at XO)
                              I use Hyper-V now & I've been looking (albeit still on the fence) at XS.

                              Gotcha.

                              It does XS + HV but... what does it do? The advantage to XO is that it is a single pane of glass. So having it cover several bases is a big deal. Alike just does a subset of functionality, right?

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                              • Dashrender
                                Dashrender last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller

                                Is it possible to have a system failover to another system with zero actual failure?

                                of course I know the answer is yes, we've seen this in video where a laptop is watching a video that's streaming from one VM and that VM is moved/failed over to another server and the video either never stops... or has a small kinda pause, but no actual failure.

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                                • FATeknollogee
                                  FATeknollogee last edited by

                                  Alike is also claiming single pane of glass, backup in one hypervisor - restore in another etc

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                                  • scottalanmiller
                                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee last edited by

                                    @FATeknollogee said:

                                    Alike is also claiming single pane of glass, backup in one hypervisor - restore in another etc

                                    Single pane of glass means all VM management, replication, capacity monitoring, failver, etc. Alike does that?

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                                    • scottalanmiller
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @scottalanmiller

                                      Is it possible to have a system failover to another system with zero actual failure?

                                      of course I know the answer is yes, we've seen this in video where a laptop is watching a video that's streaming from one VM and that VM is moved/failed over to another server and the video either never stops... or has a small kinda pause, but no actual failure.

                                      Um... yes?

                                      LOL. What did you want me to answer there?

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                                      • FATeknollogee
                                        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @FATeknollogee said:

                                        Alike is also claiming single pane of glass, backup in one hypervisor - restore in another etc

                                        Single pane of glass means all VM management, replication, capacity monitoring, failver, etc. Alike does that?

                                        Don't know about failover, but the other stuff yes (per the website), remember, my experience with this product is zero.

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                                        • scottalanmiller
                                          scottalanmiller last edited by

                                          Interesting.

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                                          • Dashrender
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller

                                            Is it possible to have a system failover to another system with zero actual failure?

                                            of course I know the answer is yes, we've seen this in video where a laptop is watching a video that's streaming from one VM and that VM is moved/failed over to another server and the video either never stops... or has a small kinda pause, but no actual failure.

                                            Um... yes?

                                            LOL. What did you want me to answer there?

                                            I was in the wrong thread/.

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