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    Hyper-V & XenServer backup & DR: single pane of glass

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @LAH3385
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      @LAH3385 said:

      What about Veeam? Don't think they support XenServer but I could be wrong.

      They don't and they have stated that they won't. They say things like "the market is too small", which is obviously totally an attempt at misdirection. The market is enormous. The market that they could penetrate is tiny because of built in, free backups solutions like XO and NAUBackup and the paid market has long been dominated by Unitrends. Veeam is in no position to compete. They rely on marketing, like VMware does, and high cost sales tactics to move in a different world that would not only fail in the higher tech Xen world, but would actually hurt them.

      Their position in the VMware world is unparalleled, there is no reason for them to play in the Xen and KVM worlds where backups isn't an external component.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee
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        None of you XS gurus know anything about this company or it's products?

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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          @FATeknollogee said:

          None of you XS gurus know anything about this company or it's products?

          Never hear of it..

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee
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            Any one with a Hyper-V + XS lab want to test the product & let us know?

            Might be the greatest thing since sliced bread...😲

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            • Deleted74295D
              Deleted74295 Banned @FATeknollogee
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              @FATeknollogee said:

              Any one with a Hyper-V + XS lab want to test the product & let us know?

              Might be the greatest thing since sliced bread...😲

              Not really 🙂

              You can have a look at their tutorials though
              http://www.quadricsoftware.com/videos/

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                last edited by

                @FATeknollogee said:

                Might be the greatest thing since sliced bread...😲

                What is interesting about it? What does it add that we are lacking?

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  What is interesting about it? What does it add that we are lacking?

                  That was supposed to be a "sarcasm" emoji.

                  I was interested because it services XS & Hyper-V (which is something you had suggested to the folks at XO)
                  I use Hyper-V now & I've been looking (albeit still on the fence) at XS.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                    last edited by

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    That was supposed to be a "sarcasm" emoji.

                    I was interested because it services XS & Hyper-V (which is something you had suggested to the folks at XO)
                    I use Hyper-V now & I've been looking (albeit still on the fence) at XS.

                    Gotcha.

                    It does XS + HV but... what does it do? The advantage to XO is that it is a single pane of glass. So having it cover several bases is a big deal. Alike just does a subset of functionality, right?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      @scottalanmiller

                      Is it possible to have a system failover to another system with zero actual failure?

                      of course I know the answer is yes, we've seen this in video where a laptop is watching a video that's streaming from one VM and that VM is moved/failed over to another server and the video either never stops... or has a small kinda pause, but no actual failure.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        Alike is also claiming single pane of glass, backup in one hypervisor - restore in another etc

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @FATeknollogee said:

                          Alike is also claiming single pane of glass, backup in one hypervisor - restore in another etc

                          Single pane of glass means all VM management, replication, capacity monitoring, failver, etc. Alike does that?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller

                            Is it possible to have a system failover to another system with zero actual failure?

                            of course I know the answer is yes, we've seen this in video where a laptop is watching a video that's streaming from one VM and that VM is moved/failed over to another server and the video either never stops... or has a small kinda pause, but no actual failure.

                            Um... yes?

                            LOL. What did you want me to answer there?

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @FATeknollogee said:

                              Alike is also claiming single pane of glass, backup in one hypervisor - restore in another etc

                              Single pane of glass means all VM management, replication, capacity monitoring, failver, etc. Alike does that?

                              Don't know about failover, but the other stuff yes (per the website), remember, my experience with this product is zero.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Interesting.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller

                                  Is it possible to have a system failover to another system with zero actual failure?

                                  of course I know the answer is yes, we've seen this in video where a laptop is watching a video that's streaming from one VM and that VM is moved/failed over to another server and the video either never stops... or has a small kinda pause, but no actual failure.

                                  Um... yes?

                                  LOL. What did you want me to answer there?

                                  I was in the wrong thread/.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    I figured that out.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      I'm watching the videos trying to figure out what it does. Looks like a decent product but haven't seen any single pane of glass stuff yet.

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        I'm watching the videos trying to figure out what it does. Looks like a decent product but haven't seen any single pane of glass stuff yet.

                                        Did you at least find one compelling feature?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                          @FATeknollogee said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          I'm watching the videos trying to figure out what it does. Looks like a decent product but haven't seen any single pane of glass stuff yet.

                                          Did you at least find one compelling feature?

                                          Not yet.

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