Backing up Office 365





  • How many users? I think the Veeam solution is free up to 10.



  • If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.



  • @black3dynamite said in Backing up Office 365:

    https://www.veeam.com/backup-microsoft-office-365.html

    I was looking at that. It is strange that it is so much less expensive than the other things I've looked at. I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but disparity like that makes me cautious. Are you using it yourself?



  • @Danp said in Backing up Office 365:

    How many users? I think the Veeam solution is free up to 10.

    Adoption is mixed. Definitely more than 10.



  • @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    Is that included or you need to purchase it additionally?



  • @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    I don't have one onsite. I may throw that into the mix though.



  • @Kelly said in Backing up Office 365:

    @black3dynamite said in Backing up Office 365:

    https://www.veeam.com/backup-microsoft-office-365.html

    I was looking at that. It is strange that it is so much less expensive than the other things I've looked at. I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but disparity like that makes me cautious. Are you using it yourself?

    I'm not sure because Office 365 is handle by someone else.



  • @Reid-Cooper said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    Is that included or you need to purchase it additionally?

    It's included. No additional licensing required. It happens to be running right now for another client who we just setup a NAS for onsite backups so here's a screenshot (removed the list of users for privacy). This is the initial backup that's running. 14 users done, 6 more to go. The daily backups once the initial is done are much faster.

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  • @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    @Reid-Cooper said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    Is that included or you need to purchase it additionally?

    It's included. No additional licensing required. It happens to be running right now for another client who we just setup a NAS for onsite backups so here's a screenshot (removed the list of users for privacy). This is the initial backup that's running. 14 users done, 6 more to go. The daily backups once the initial is done are much faster.

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    wow, that could justify the cost of a Synology pretty easily right there if you use that feature.



  • @Reid-Cooper said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    @Reid-Cooper said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    Is that included or you need to purchase it additionally?

    It's included. No additional licensing required. It happens to be running right now for another client who we just setup a NAS for onsite backups so here's a screenshot (removed the list of users for privacy). This is the initial backup that's running. 14 users done, 6 more to go. The daily backups once the initial is done are much faster.

    b6226db1-e1de-40af-bc84-c2354c069c98-image.png

    wow, that could justify the cost of a Synology pretty easily right there if you use that feature.

    Will be testing that today....



  • Another feature that I love to use on Synology is their Active Backup For Business, specifically for their scheduled rsync function that let's me pull all of my config files off the various Linux servers like Unifi (auto backup files), FreePBX backups, sound files...etc or even all the certs off my Nginx server. I find this method easier than setting up a network folder backup from each of the linux servers.

    Incidentally, Willie Howe did a video about this setup a few days ago.



  • @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    Keep in mind Active Backup is only available on certain models of Synology. I believe mostly on the plus models. It is an awesome software though.



  • @syko24 said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    Keep in mind Active Backup is only available on certain models of Synology. I believe mostly on the plus models. It is an awesome software though.

    Good to know, for sure!



  • @syko24 said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    Keep in mind Active Backup is only available on certain models of Synology. I believe mostly on the plus models. It is an awesome software though.

    This is the list of eligible models from their site. That's pretty comprehensive.

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  • @Kelly said in Backing up Office 365:

    @black3dynamite said in Backing up Office 365:

    https://www.veeam.com/backup-microsoft-office-365.html

    I was looking at that. It is strange that it is so much less expensive than the other things I've looked at. I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but disparity like that makes me cautious. Are you using it yourself?

    Veeam's O365 backup only backs up your O365 tenant information (including SharePoint Online), to the same location as the Veeam server itself. I've tried the program, but you would need to mount the storage drive directly to the server. You would then need to manage the Veeam server itself with backups, which, to me, seems redundant, to backup your O365 data to a local server, then backup the server offsite. Unless you are some kind of service provider, then you have the capability to backup O365 to another hosted storage provider.

    We are using OffsiteDataSync. First inital call was impressive, they have redundancy in the datacenters with multiple datacenters nationwide, great pricing based upon users, with unlimited amount of retention. However, our experience haven't been bad, but haven't been great either.

    • Our sales guy was compromised by clicking on a link and sending us infected emails
    • We don't receive successful emails on backup jobs
    • We receive warnings with no more information than just a warning
    • When opening a ticket, they tell you that it is escalated to their development team, but never receive updates on the ticket until they tell you that they are waiting for you to change your password for them to resolve the problem
    • Then just drops your ticket without any explanation as to what broke, nor how they fixed it.

    Take them with a grain of salt.



  • @NerdyDad said in Backing up Office 365:

    @Kelly said in Backing up Office 365:

    @black3dynamite said in Backing up Office 365:

    https://www.veeam.com/backup-microsoft-office-365.html

    I was looking at that. It is strange that it is so much less expensive than the other things I've looked at. I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but disparity like that makes me cautious. Are you using it yourself?

    Veeam's O365 backup only backs up your O365 tenant information (including SharePoint Online), to the same location as the Veeam server itself. I've tried the program, but you would need to mount the storage drive directly to the server. You would then need to manage the Veeam server itself with backups, which, to me, seems redundant, to backup your O365 data to a local server, then backup the server offsite. Unless you are some kind of service provider, then you have the capability to backup O365 to another hosted storage provider.

    We are using OffsiteDataSync. First inital call was impressive, they have redundancy in the datacenters with multiple datacenters nationwide, great pricing based upon users, with unlimited amount of retention. However, our experience haven't been bad, but haven't been great either.

    • Our sales guy was compromised by clicking on a link and sending us infected emails
    • We don't receive successful emails on backup jobs
    • We receive warnings with no more information than just a warning
    • When opening a ticket, they tell you that it is escalated to their development team, but never receive updates on the ticket until they tell you that they are waiting for you to change your password for them to resolve the problem
    • Then just drops your ticket without any explanation as to what broke, nor how they fixed it.

    Take them with a grain of salt.

    I am backing up my O365 to a share on a Synology NAS using Veeam.

    Edit: It is the same NAS I use for Veeam BR, just a different share (as you can't use the same share as VBR)



  • @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    @Reid-Cooper said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    Is that included or you need to purchase it additionally?

    It's included. No additional licensing required. It happens to be running right now for another client who we just setup a NAS for onsite backups so here's a screenshot (removed the list of users for privacy). This is the initial backup that's running. 14 users done, 6 more to go. The daily backups once the initial is done are much faster.

    b6226db1-e1de-40af-bc84-c2354c069c98-image.png

    Does this work well for larger numbers of mailboxes? Say. 40 rather than 10?



  • @Jimmy9008 said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    @Reid-Cooper said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    Is that included or you need to purchase it additionally?

    It's included. No additional licensing required. It happens to be running right now for another client who we just setup a NAS for onsite backups so here's a screenshot (removed the list of users for privacy). This is the initial backup that's running. 14 users done, 6 more to go. The daily backups once the initial is done are much faster.

    b6226db1-e1de-40af-bc84-c2354c069c98-image.png

    Does this work well for larger numbers of mailboxes? Say. 40 rather than 10?

    How about more like 100?



  • @scottalanmiller - does NTG suggest to their O365 clients to have a backup like the ones being discussed here?



  • @Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365:

    @Jimmy9008 said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    @Reid-Cooper said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    Is that included or you need to purchase it additionally?

    It's included. No additional licensing required. It happens to be running right now for another client who we just setup a NAS for onsite backups so here's a screenshot (removed the list of users for privacy). This is the initial backup that's running. 14 users done, 6 more to go. The daily backups once the initial is done are much faster.

    b6226db1-e1de-40af-bc84-c2354c069c98-image.png

    Does this work well for larger numbers of mailboxes? Say. 40 rather than 10?

    How about more like 100?

    I am trying this on just my account. Will see how that runs before trying with 40. Hopefully it works well. 15 minutes in still 'processing'.



  • @Dashrender @Jimmy9008 My largest client to use this for their Office 365 backup has 42 mailboxes and it works very well for them. I can't confirm with anything larger than that though.



  • @Jimmy9008 said in Backing up Office 365:

    @Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365:

    @Jimmy9008 said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    @Reid-Cooper said in Backing up Office 365:

    @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    If you happen to have a Synology onsite, they also offer Active Backup For Office 365. I'm using this at a small client's site with ~40 mailboxes. Works pretty well.

    Is that included or you need to purchase it additionally?

    It's included. No additional licensing required. It happens to be running right now for another client who we just setup a NAS for onsite backups so here's a screenshot (removed the list of users for privacy). This is the initial backup that's running. 14 users done, 6 more to go. The daily backups once the initial is done are much faster.

    b6226db1-e1de-40af-bc84-c2354c069c98-image.png

    Does this work well for larger numbers of mailboxes? Say. 40 rather than 10?

    How about more like 100?

    I am trying this on just my account. Will see how that runs before trying with 40. Hopefully it works well. 15 minutes in still 'processing'.

    The initial backup takes a while.



  • @NashBrydges said in Backing up Office 365:

    @Dashrender @Jimmy9008 My largest client to use this for their Office 365 backup has 42 mailboxes and it works very well for them. I can't confirm with anything larger than that though.

    In theory then it should work well for me. Will test and see. Thanks