@scottalanmiller said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

Thats not a backup of a backup. I have 1 x replica of a VM going to the provider and my site gets screwed (major power outage), I spin up my DR replica and have all my remote staff connecting in minutes. If I instead get a crypto and replica that data, my replica is fucked. This is not a backup.

It's the very definition of a backup. In every sense.

Let not argue and go round and round on this. Ill contact some providers to get quotes which I was going to have to do anyway. Just wanted to see from somebody with any experience on this on getting access to any form of costings without having to pick up the phone.

Cheers guys.

@scottalanmiller said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@scottalanmiller said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@scottalanmiller said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

Veeam Cloud Connect

Who do they support? I think that Veeam CC is a service, not something you use to connect to your own storage options like you are looking for.

I think you just want a normal backup, nothing more. I have a feeling you are mixing the idea of having a cloud DR strategy with the search for storage for your backups. They are separate items and what makes sense for the one, doesn't make sense for the other. The products are fundamentally wrong.

Example... it's S3 or Glacier from Amazon, not EC2, that you'd be looking for.

Im not looking to connect and use them for storage. That would be useless to me. This is for DR.

DR requires storage. How do you want DR to work if it can't get the data from the backups?

The DRaaS of course comes with storage. But thats not the reason for using it. The purpose is I can turn on replicas on the DRaaS solution and bring my systems back up on the providers infrastructure. Backups are backups. This is not getting data from backups. The DR has its own copy of replicated VMs.

That would be a backup of the backup. Which is fine to have, but a DR strategy is "how do you spin up your backups and use them." So for the average cloud based DR, it's to backup to S3, Azure, Wasabi, B2, etc. and use that backup to spin up a cloud or non-cloud VM. No need for additional storage in the DR solution, the "almost always" DR use case is that DR pulls from the backup, not that the DR "system or plan" has additional backups of its own.

Thats not a backup of a backup. I have 1 x replica of a VM going to the provider and my site gets screwed (major power outage), I spin up my DR replica and have all my remote staff connecting in minutes. If I instead get a crypto and replica that data, my replica is fucked. This is not a backup.

My backups are already done and in place. In the above example you would have to restore from the backups. Because, they are backups.

@scottalanmiller said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

What I am specifically trying to do is find costs to use this Veeam technology to send replicas to a cloud provider. DRaaS. If my site goes down, I can use this DRaaS service to spin up my VMs pretty much instantly. Just like I could do with a replica HyperV VM on a different host...

The problem here is, DRaaS includes backups. So this takes us back to "where do you send your backups", once again.

Backups are included in my backups. DRaaS is not the same thing. This is also moving away from the original point.
The point is asking if anybody has advice on quoting up DRaaS, not the theoretical differences between DR and backup.

@scottalanmiller said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@scottalanmiller said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

Veeam Cloud Connect

Who do they support? I think that Veeam CC is a service, not something you use to connect to your own storage options like you are looking for.

I think you just want a normal backup, nothing more. I have a feeling you are mixing the idea of having a cloud DR strategy with the search for storage for your backups. They are separate items and what makes sense for the one, doesn't make sense for the other. The products are fundamentally wrong.

Example... it's S3 or Glacier from Amazon, not EC2, that you'd be looking for.

Im not looking to connect and use them for storage. That would be useless to me. This is for DR.

DR requires storage. How do you want DR to work if it can't get the data from the backups?

The DRaaS of course comes with storage. But thats not the reason for using it. The purpose is I can turn on replicas on the DRaaS solution and bring my systems back up on the providers infrastructure. Backups are backups. This is not getting data from backups. The DR has its own copy of replicated VMs.

@Dashrender said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@travisdh1 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

Hi folks,

I am looking to potentially use the replication tool within Veeam B&R to send replicas of key VMs to Azure/AWS for DR purposes. We would not send everything over, only key servers. 1 x Domain Controller, 3 x Web Server and 1 x Database Server. Possibly more, but that is the current list.

How can I calculate prices for running this? The replicas would be offline, so I would expect to only pay storage costs and data inbound costs but no other costs until in a DR situation. I could look at the pricing calculator and add up for generic VMs, but... these are replicas of specific VMs and do not meet templates...

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Cheers.

Why aren't you looking at Glacier, Backblaze B2, or Wasabi? If it's only a few VMs for cold storage, then those 3 will be much cheaper, and B2 and Wasabi are vastly simpler to figure out pricing on.

Do those providers provide a DR situation? If they are only storage, then this is likely not the solution he's looking for.

Correct. I must not have been clear in the original post. Veeam has replication which has advantages over Hyper-V replica native. This can replicate to on site servers, or to DRaaS providers. (I don't think Azure or AWS actually support Veeam Cloud Connect from earlier research).

It looks like ill have to contact providers and get some cold callers hitting me.

@scottalanmiller said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

Veeam Cloud Connect

Who do they support? I think that Veeam CC is a service, not something you use to connect to your own storage options like you are looking for.

I think you just want a normal backup, nothing more. I have a feeling you are mixing the idea of having a cloud DR strategy with the search for storage for your backups. They are separate items and what makes sense for the one, doesn't make sense for the other. The products are fundamentally wrong.

Example... it's S3 or Glacier from Amazon, not EC2, that you'd be looking for.

Im not looking to connect and use them for storage. That would be useless to me. This is for DR.

@Dashrender said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

ants is offsite backups, then S3 or Glacier BB etc are all likely candidates, but if DR is the need, the others he listed seem like some of the prime candid

Backups are already sorted using Veeam with scale out to Azure. To be clear, I am not talking about backups. I am talking about DR. Backups are as they need to be.

The DR part is using Veeam Replica to replicate a from backup, or from the origin host a copy 'replica' of any VM I wish to. I am able to do a replica using Veeam to 1) another host within my own on site/systems globally, or 2) to a cloud provider.

What I am specifically trying to do is find costs to use this Veeam technology to send replicas to a cloud provider. DRaaS. If my site goes down, I can use this DRaaS service to spin up my VMs pretty much instantly. Just like I could do with a replica HyperV VM on a different host...

The question I am trying to answer is getting costs for this. I cant just quote up several VMs in Azure, or AWS or whatever. They are not my replicas. They are standardized templates. Useless to me for this purpose.

@travisdh1 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

@Jimmy9008 said in Veeam Replication to Azure:

Hi folks,

I am looking to potentially use the replication tool within Veeam B&R to send replicas of key VMs to Azure/AWS for DR purposes. We would not send everything over, only key servers. 1 x Domain Controller, 3 x Web Server and 1 x Database Server. Possibly more, but that is the current list.

How can I calculate prices for running this? The replicas would be offline, so I would expect to only pay storage costs and data inbound costs but no other costs until in a DR situation. I could look at the pricing calculator and add up for generic VMs, but... these are replicas of specific VMs and do not meet templates...

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Cheers.

Why aren't you looking at Glacier, Backblaze B2, or Wasabi? If it's only a few VMs for cold storage, then those 3 will be much cheaper, and B2 and Wasabi are vastly simpler to figure out pricing on.

Ill add them to the list to look at. From research I have done today, it looks like Azure / AWS are not a Veeam Cloud Connect provider anyway. So that removed them from the list.

Hi folks,

I am looking to potentially use the replication tool within Veeam B&R to send replicas of key VMs to Azure/AWS for DR purposes. We would not send everything over, only key servers. 1 x Domain Controller, 3 x Web Server and 1 x Database Server. Possibly more, but that is the current list.

How can I calculate prices for running this? The replicas would be offline, so I would expect to only pay storage costs and data inbound costs but no other costs until in a DR situation. I could look at the pricing calculator and add up for generic VMs, but... these are replicas of specific VMs and do not meet templates...

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Cheers.

Hi folks,

What do you think about using Netwrix Auditor Video Recording? We use Netwrix on our servers already and collect logging on user actions and changes, but we have not enabled session recording. Do you think that is overkill?

I have done some testing, and it feels valuable to be able to click on a session and actually see what the sysadmin did on the server. My use case is to monitor backup servers and file server with video recording. All other servers can go without, but those two types of servers hold very privileged information, and I think having a recording of what is done on the system would be useful.

May be overkill though, and I know a lot of syadmins will not be happy about having their sessions recorded. But again, only being done on the servers holding the privileged data.

What do you think? Video or no video?

Best,
Jim