What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?
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@Dashrender said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
One thing a question like this doesn't really account for - is OS sprawl. i.e. one install per function. Of course there are huge advantages to this (i.e. you need to update/reboot the Unifi server, nothing else is affected), it quickly grows the number on 'nix boxes compared to Windows boxes because of the a fore mentioned Windows Tax.
Yeah, Linux and BSD naturally grow in the hosted world by leaps and bounds because of licensing and cloud hosting costs.
http://www.smbitjournal.com/2010/05/linux-virtualization-deployment-advantage/
Seven years old now!
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We have one client that has FreeBSD, and I have no idea what else there is in their environment since this is the only thing we have physically worked on for them. You do get brought in to work on a small project here and there for liniux stuff but again we know the one thing in their environment for the project and not the full thing. So I can't speak to what their environments are since we have no idea.
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Zero. All Linux of some sort.
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@travisdh1 said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
Zero. All Linux of some sort.
Can't wait till we are there. Just have that one pesky old server to sort out.
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Does running Hyper-V server count? I mean it is Microsoft.
Client A:
- Hyper Server 2012 R2 x 2
- Server 2012 R2 Standard VM x2
- CentOS 7 VM x3
So either 57.14% (4 of 7) or 40.0% (2/5) depending on if the Hypervisor counts.
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@JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
Does running Hyper-V server count? I mean it is Microsoft.
Client A:
- Hyper Server 2012 R2 x 2
- Server 2012 R2 Standard VM x2
- CentOS 7 VM x3
So either 57.14% (4 of 7) or 40.0% (2/5) depending on if the Hypervisor counts.
I don't think that the hypervisor counts, or else VMware would count against the MS count, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
Does running Hyper-V server count? I mean it is Microsoft.
Client A:
- Hyper Server 2012 R2 x 2
- Server 2012 R2 Standard VM x2
- CentOS 7 VM x3
So either 57.14% (4 of 7) or 40.0% (2/5) depending on if the Hypervisor counts.
I don't think that the hypervisor counts, or else VMware would count against the MS count, too.
You still have to patch it and do more management then you would with VMware
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Linux = 28.75%
Windows = 71.25%Physical Linux: 13
Physical Windows: 14Virtual Linux: 10
Virtual Windows: 43 (because of DataCenter licensing) -
@Tim_G Why is any of it physical?
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@DustinB3403 said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@Tim_G Why is any of it physical?
If his place is anything like mine there's just stuff you haven't gotten to yet
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@MattSpeller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@DustinB3403 said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@Tim_G Why is any of it physical?
If his place is anything like mine there's just stuff you haven't gotten to yet
This pretty much says it all.
There was a lot of custom stuff before I started. So it's not as simple running P2V, bang bang done. At the same time consolidating. There was definite physical server sprawl, complicated configurations. Much of it was old outdated Linux and Windows physical servers such as 2000, 2003, wayyyy (old) unsupported CentOS, FreeBSD, and Ubuntu. A bunch of other stuff that couldn't be virtualized. So not only couldn't I do P2V, it had to be rebuilt from scratch on a different OS... Software updated, the list goes on.
How it was when I started, all the VMs were physical, plus more because of too much role separation. Plus a lot of IPODs with old SANs and such (no clustering).
It started out as a garage shop, grew to a multinational company in like 30 countries, and never left the garage shop mentality... so you can use your imagination to get a better picture of how thing were, and how far it has come with the numbers I provided. Lots of stuff coming up in the meantime too... huge projects.
Still a lot of work to do, and no time to do it.
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77% Windows here. Lots of stuff could be ported over to *nix but there has been no drive to do it.
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@coliver said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
77% Windows here. Lots of stuff could be ported over to *nix but there has been no drive to do it.
The only currently supported thing that we have that uses Windows server is our accounting package, which runs on postgreSQL. What I'm not sure of is if there is an actual server side component to this, or if the DB is all that is really running on the server. It's Business Works (formerly Business Works Gold).
Of course out old, no supported, yet still required EHR system runs on IIS and won't be ported to another platform, so it's stuck.
The rest though could all be replaced with nix derivatives.
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Right now 100% that are running. I shut down a couple of Linux server that were no longer needed.
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15% Windows.
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92% Windows: 11 of 12 server instances.
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I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.
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@art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.
Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.
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@scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.
Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.
Cross-section is irrelevant. The question was what is the percent windows for wherever you are wherever you've seen. You can push your agenda and think that oh my gosh all these other places are not windows but you're not there you're making assumptions based on your own biases
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@JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
@art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:
I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.
Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.
Cross-section is irrelevant. The question was what is the percent windows for wherever you are wherever you've seen. You can push your agenda and think that oh my gosh all these other places are not windows but you're not there you're making assumptions based on your own biases
As can you. Understanding that it's a reference specifically created by supporting specifically Windows is absolutely necessary so get off the high horse. And he left out that he was installing Linux at all if those costumers, too.
