ML
    • Recent
    • Categories
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    I can't even

    Water Closet
    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
    73
    1.9k
    469.6k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @JaredBusch
      last edited by

      @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

      @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

      @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

      This is every phishing email ever.

      Shit.. I have to admit - if I gave to craps about HD music, I would have fallen for that one if it was fake... yeah, bad form Amazon!

      C 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • C
        Carnival Boy @Dashrender
        last edited by

        What are they supposed to do?

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • jclambertJ
          jclambert @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @jaredbusch
          Wow. Just wow

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • pmonchoP
            pmoncho @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

            @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

            @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

            This is every phishing email ever.

            Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?

            Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.

            JaredBuschJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @pmoncho
              last edited by

              @pmoncho said in I can't even:

              @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

              @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

              @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

              This is every phishing email ever.

              Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?

              Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.

              It is a legitimate email from Amazon. But it is nothing but a click bait click here to get something free email. When you work and work and work to train your users to not click on shit it seems too good to be true, but then a legitimate company sends out bullshit like this.

              DashrenderD pmonchoP 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 2
              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

                This is every phishing email ever.

                Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?

                Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.

                It is a legitimate email from Amazon. But it is nothing but a click bait click here to get something free email. When you work and work and work to train your users to not click on shit it seems too good to be true, but then a legitimate company sends out bullshit like this.

                Other than smarter users, I don't see this problem going away.

                Vendors know they need to present a near zero friction experience if they want customers - i.e. putting in a plan text link like amzn.com/shorturl and asking the customer to copy and paste it into a browser is a fail, and a fail for more than one reason.

                Sadly - even the smartest, most well intention people will get tripped up - was tired, super busy and not paying close attention, etc..

                While I completely agree with JB that ads like this one (email ads) just suck!, I don't see even legit ones ever going away 😞

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • pmonchoP
                  pmoncho @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                  @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                  @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                  @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                  @jaredbusch What's the issue? I don't get it.

                  This is every phishing email ever.

                  Well, if it is actually from Amazon, wouldn't that be considered marketing instead of phishing?

                  Not saying I agree with it the email as I have many other issues with it.

                  It is a legitimate email from Amazon. But it is nothing but a click bait click here to get something free email. When you work and work and work to train your users to not click on shit it seems too good to be true, but then a legitimate company sends out bullshit like this.

                  Agreed. With the forever issues these emails provide, as @Dashrender pointed out, the best I can hope for is to continue training users and always tell them to hover over the link before clicking to verify the address. Plus my added statement, "If you don't know, the answer is NO!"

                  From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.

                  C 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • C
                    Carnival Boy
                    last edited by

                    How is it clickbait? Amazon HD music (CD quality audio) used to be about $5 extra for subscribers, they've now made it free. This is a good thing if you're an audiophile and surely Amazon customers will appreciate getting a heads-up?

                    It's a sign of healthy competition in the music streaming industry with Amazon, Tidal, Apple, Google and Spotify at each others throats.

                    DashrenderD 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @Carnival Boy
                      last edited by

                      @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                      How is it clickbait? Amazon HD music (CD quality audio) used to be about $5 extra for subscribers, they've now made it free. This is a good thing if you're an audiophile and surely Amazon customers will appreciate getting a heads-up?

                      It's a sign of healthy competition in the music streaming industry with Amazon, Tidal, Apple, Google and Spotify at each others throats.

                      that might all be true - but it's also bad training for users.

                      We spend our time trying to train users not to click on shit, and amazon sends stuff like this that makes it a bit more difficult to know exactly what it's doing or where its going.
                      Yeah, it's not click-bait per se, but definitely not what I would consider good form today.
                      And here's Skyetel doing the same damned thing
                      7cca489b-b478-43b7-9569-4a22347cfe84-image.png

                      C 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • C
                        Carnival Boy @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender like I asked before, what are they supposed to do?

                        I want links in e-mails from my subscription providers. I don't want to have to navigate around the portal trying to find something just because some people don't like links.

                        JaredBuschJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • C
                          Carnival Boy @pmoncho
                          last edited by

                          @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                          From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.

                          What does the Oxford Dictionary say? The word unlimited doesn't imply anything regarding audio quality.

                          pmonchoP 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • pmonchoP
                            pmoncho @Carnival Boy
                            last edited by

                            @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                            @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                            From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.

                            What does the Oxford Dictionary say? The word unlimited doesn't imply anything regarding audio quality.

                            Oxford says the following:
                            "not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent."

                            My view is that the HD would be included in the "extent" part of the definition. So if streaming music tech has spread/extended to HD, it should be included as part of the Unlimited account.

                            scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @pmoncho
                              last edited by

                              @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                              @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                              @pmoncho said in I can't even:

                              From a marketing perspective, my issue with the email is the perceived bonus you get for having an UNLIMITED account (I have one too). We are not getting any bonus for free, its included in the word Unlimited, at least according to the Oxford Dictionary.

                              What does the Oxford Dictionary say? The word unlimited doesn't imply anything regarding audio quality.

                              Oxford says the following:
                              "not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent."

                              My view is that the HD would be included in the "extent" part of the definition. So if streaming music tech has spread/extended to HD, it should be included as part of the Unlimited account.

                              I think I agree. For example, if you had quality limits and opened up better quality you might say that you now offer "unlimited quality" or "unlimited quality options."

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Carnival Boy
                                last edited by

                                @carnival-boy said in I can't even:

                                @dashrender like I asked before, what are they supposed to do?

                                I want links in e-mails from my subscription providers. I don't want to have to navigate around the portal trying to find something just because some people don't like links.

                                Except the Skyetel Enroll Now! button does not go to Skyetel.

                                It goes to list-manage.com

                                e4cf6c01-0500-4608-b13e-53de2d7087d1-image.png

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by JaredBusch

                                  So, if you are supposed to be some awesome cloud expert (see bluestingray.com)............

                                  How the fuck do you not know who an IP belongs to?

                                  905ccca5-387f-49a6-b4b1-56d4ae69806c-image.png

                                  Oh look, it belongs to NetStuite... The customer's ERP.....

                                  [jbusch@d-jared ~]$ whois 208.46.212.86
                                  [Querying whois.arin.net]
                                  [whois.arin.net]
                                  
                                  #
                                  # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
                                  # available at: https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/tou/
                                  #
                                  # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at
                                  # https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/inaccuracy_reporting/
                                  #
                                  # Copyright 1997-2021, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.
                                  #
                                  
                                  
                                  
                                  # start
                                  
                                  NetRange:       208.44.0.0 - 208.47.255.255
                                  CIDR:           208.44.0.0/14
                                  NetName:        CENTURYLINK-LEGACY-QWEST-INET-3
                                  NetHandle:      NET-208-44-0-0-1
                                  Parent:         NET208 (NET-208-0-0-0-0)
                                  NetType:        Direct Allocation
                                  OriginAS:       
                                  Organization:   CenturyLink Communications, LLC (CCL-534)
                                  RegDate:        1999-06-24
                                  Updated:        2018-02-21
                                  Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/208.44.0.0
                                  
                                  
                                  
                                  OrgName:        CenturyLink Communications, LLC
                                  OrgId:          CCL-534
                                  Address:        100 CENTURYLINK DR
                                  City:           Monroe
                                  StateProv:      LA
                                  PostalCode:     71201
                                  Country:        US
                                  RegDate:        2018-07-12
                                  Updated:        2021-03-11
                                  Comment:        ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE ANY ISP ANNOUNCING PORTIONS WITHIN OUR RANGE SHOULD NOT RELY ON PRESENTED LOA'S UNLESS THOSE RANGES ARE ALSO ANNOUNCED TO A CENTURYLINK ASN.
                                  Comment:        
                                  Comment:        For abuse issues, please email [email protected] 
                                  Comment:        All abuse reports MUST include: 
                                  Comment:        * src IP 
                                  Comment:        * dest IP (your IP) 
                                  Comment:        * dest port 
                                  Comment:        * Accurate date/timestamp and timezone of activity 
                                  Comment:        * Intensity/frequency (short log extracts) 
                                  Comment:        * Your contact details (phone and email)
                                  Comment:        Without these we will be unable to identify the correct owner of the IP address at that point in time.
                                  Comment:        
                                  Comment:        For subpoena or court order please fax 844.254.5800 or refer to our Law Enforcement Support page:
                                  Comment:        
                                  Comment:        https://www.centurylink.com/aboutus/legal/privacy-notice/law-enforcement-support.html
                                  Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/CCL-534
                                  
                                  
                                  OrgAbuseHandle: CAD54-ARIN
                                  OrgAbuseName:   Centurylink Abuse Desk
                                  OrgAbusePhone:  +1-877-886-6515 
                                  OrgAbuseEmail:  [email protected]
                                  OrgAbuseRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/CAD54-ARIN
                                  
                                  OrgTechHandle: QIA-ARIN
                                  OrgTechName:   Centurylink IP Admin
                                  OrgTechPhone:  +1-877-886-6515 
                                  OrgTechEmail:  [email protected]
                                  OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/QIA-ARIN
                                  
                                  # end
                                  
                                  
                                  # start
                                  
                                  NetRange:       208.46.212.0 - 208.46.212.255
                                  CIDR:           208.46.212.0/24
                                  NetName:        SAVV-S233229-0
                                  NetHandle:      NET-208-46-212-0-1
                                  Parent:         CENTURYLINK-LEGACY-QWEST-INET-3 (NET-208-44-0-0-1)
                                  NetType:        Reassigned
                                  OriginAS:       
                                  Organization:   NetSuite, Inc. (NETSU-17)
                                  RegDate:        2015-05-28
                                  Updated:        2015-05-28
                                  Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/208.46.212.0
                                  
                                  
                                  OrgName:        NetSuite, Inc.
                                  OrgId:          NETSU-17
                                  Address:        2955 Campus Drive
                                  Address:        Suite 175
                                  City:           San Mateo
                                  StateProv:      CA
                                  PostalCode:     94403
                                  Country:        US
                                  RegDate:        2015-05-28
                                  Updated:        2015-05-28
                                  Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/NETSU-17
                                  
                                  
                                  OrgAbuseHandle: NATAR4-ARIN
                                  OrgAbuseName:   Natarajan, Kanakarajan 
                                  OrgAbusePhone:  +1-925-963-2402 
                                  OrgAbuseEmail:  [email protected]
                                  OrgAbuseRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/NATAR4-ARIN
                                  
                                  OrgTechHandle: NATAR4-ARIN
                                  OrgTechName:   Natarajan, Kanakarajan 
                                  OrgTechPhone:  +1-925-963-2402 
                                  OrgTechEmail:  [email protected]
                                  OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/NATAR4-ARIN
                                  
                                  # end
                                  
                                  
                                  
                                  #
                                  # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
                                  # available at: https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/tou/
                                  #
                                  # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at
                                  # https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/inaccuracy_reporting/
                                  #
                                  # Copyright 1997-2021, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.
                                  #
                                  

                                  Maybe your AwesomeSite_06 is not so awesome after all.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Ever wonder why the competition is so cheap....

                                    The vendor that got a large account from us, and honestly they've been great to work with for handover up till now, asked us today to train them on how to manage phone systems as "part of the handover process"... three weeks after our engagement with the account had ended.

                                    Um.... what? No.

                                    They needed training on things like "how to log in" and "how to add a new user" and "how to attach a phone."

                                    For the record, this is FreePBX running totally vanilla, that we didn't even set up!

                                    gjacobseG travisdh1T 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • gjacobseG
                                      gjacobse @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                      Ever wonder why the competition is so cheap....

                                      The vendor that got a large account from us, and honestly they've been great to work with for handover up till now, asked us today to train them on how to manage phone systems as "part of the handover process"... three weeks after our engagement with the account had ended.

                                      Um.... what? No.

                                      They needed training on things like "how to log in" and "how to add a new user" and "how to attach a phone."

                                      For the record, this is FreePBX running totally vanilla, that we didn't even set up!

                                      That's a WTF, not just a "I can't even,.."

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        Ever wonder why the competition is so cheap....

                                        The vendor that got a large account from us, and honestly they've been great to work with for handover up till now, asked us today to train them on how to manage phone systems as "part of the handover process"... three weeks after our engagement with the account had ended.

                                        Um.... what? No.

                                        They needed training on things like "how to log in" and "how to add a new user" and "how to attach a phone."

                                        For the record, this is FreePBX running totally vanilla, that we didn't even set up!

                                        Wow... just, wow.

                                        Channeling @JaredBusch FFS!

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • gjacobseG
                                          gjacobse
                                          last edited by gjacobse

                                          Nothing like having a brand new $10,000 IoT device that has now 'crashed' and is outside of the scope of IT for support - and IT has to support it.... oFFS!

                                          What IoT device costs $10k? A medical camera -

                                          notverypunnyN 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • notverypunnyN
                                            notverypunny @gjacobse
                                            last edited by

                                            @gjacobse said in I can't even:

                                            Nothing like having a brand new $10,000 IoT device that has now 'crashed' and is outside of the scope of IT for support - and IT has to support it.... oFFS!

                                            What IoT device costs $10k? A medical camera -

                                            This is a prime example of why I don't miss healthcare.... so many instances of IT vs Clinical Eng. as to who was supposed to support what and how

                                            gjacobseG 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 9
                                            • 10
                                            • 11
                                            • 12
                                            • 13
                                            • 96
                                            • 97
                                            • 11 / 97
                                            • First post
                                              Last post