What Are You Doing Right Now
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.
Most people have to get PTO approved by their manager. So suddenly taking a few weeks off will not likely be approved.
True.
Today though, one can play the COVID card to get at least a couple days. (Two people I know have done this at another workplace)
We all know, people will try to find some type of work around.
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@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.
so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.
Will have to see
Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.
For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.
And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.
While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.
Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?
The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.
If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.
Keep in mind, I"m a contractor. and yea,.. it's in the handbook.. it's not paid out. take it or lose it.
The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...
In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.
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@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.
so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.
Will have to see
Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.
For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.
And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.
While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.
Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?
The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.
If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.
Yea,.. sadly - while I am rather against it,.. it's likely how I will have to handle this.
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@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...
A COO has little room to do anything? How is that a COO?
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@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.
And the COO hasn't stepped in to do something about it? How is a former junior manager (compared to the COO) able to do that but the COO unable to hire someone?
How are companies this bad?
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@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.
so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.
Will have to see
Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.
For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.
And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.
While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.
Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?
The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.
If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.
Keep in mind, I"m a contractor. and yea,.. it's in the handbook.. it's not paid out. take it or lose it.
The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...
In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.
That is some serious moola. The CFO might be in on it too. A friend of my father, owned an accounting firm with a side IT company, got busted in kick back scam to the tune of $10 Mil. All the C-Level execs were included in the scam though.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...
A COO has little room to do anything? How is that a COO?
The COO can't tell my company to pay it out -
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.
And the COO hasn't stepped in to do something about it? How is a former junior manager (compared to the COO) able to do that but the COO unable to hire someone?
How are companies this bad?
From the meeting we had with the COO and the CEO made it seem that the Director washed a lot of information both directions. To the C-suite and from them... so seems they didn't know about a number of things.
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@pmoncho
Yikes -
No thanks.. I just would like to have my 94 hours considering,... or at least a good bit of it. -
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.
so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.
Will have to see
Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.
For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.
And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.
While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.
Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?
The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.
If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.
Keep in mind, I"m a contractor. and yea,.. it's in the handbook.. it's not paid out. take it or lose it.
The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...
In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.
That is some serious moola. The CFO might be in on it too. A friend of my father, owned an accounting firm with a side IT company, got busted in kick back scam to the tune of $10 Mil. All the C-Level execs were included in the scam though.
SOOOOO common (to do it, not to get busted.)
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Forgot how long it takes Vultr to take a snapshot
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@EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Forgot how long it takes Vultr to take a snapshot
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@EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Forgot how long it takes Vultr to take a snapshot
OMG, you have time to make s'mores while waiting for that.
And I mean time to...
Drive to a campsite. Find a tree. Cut it down. Cut it up. Make a bonfire. Wait for it to die down low. Then start roasting some marshmallows.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Forgot how long it takes Vultr to take a snapshot
OMG, you have time to make s'mores while waiting for that.
And I mean time to...
Drive to a campsite. Find a tree. Cut it down. Cut it up. Make a bonfire. Wait for it to die down low. Then start roasting some marshmallows.
Realize you forgot chocolate and go back to get the chocolate. Come back, then realize that you dont' have graham crackers, and go back to the store and get that too ?
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Forgot how long it takes Vultr to take a snapshot
OMG, you have time to make s'mores while waiting for that.
And I mean time to...
Drive to a campsite. Find a tree. Cut it down. Cut it up. Make a bonfire. Wait for it to die down low. Then start roasting some marshmallows.
Realize you forgot chocolate and go back to get the chocolate. Come back, then realize that you dont' have graham crackers, and go back to the store and get that too ?
Sounds about right.
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On a nice hike
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@EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.
so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.
Will have to see
Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.
When I left public school teaching (Georgia), I didn't receive any payment for 500+ sick leave hours
I know of no place that pays out sick leave - doesn't mean non exist.. I just know of none.
But PTO - that's different.
If Gene was a contractor though ... not sure how PTO would even work. I'm sure Scott does though.
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@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.
so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.
Will have to see
Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.
For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.
And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.
While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.
Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?
The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.
If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.
Keep in mind, I"m a contractor. and yea,.. it's in the handbook.. it's not paid out. take it or lose it.
The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...
In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.
since the contractor isn't going to pay it out - can't the clinic just give it to you in a bank?
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.
so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.
Will have to see
Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.
For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.
And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.
While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.
Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?
The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.
If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.
Keep in mind, I"m a contractor. and yea,.. it's in the handbook.. it's not paid out. take it or lose it.
The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...
In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.
since the contractor isn't going to pay it out - can't the clinic just give it to you in a bank?
How would that work? The position I accepted is not with the clinic.
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@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...
Not something you likely want to bother perusing, but keep in mind that almost always (seriously, the exceptions are few and far between), you are an EMPLOYEE of the clinic by law. So anything in their handbook that says they have a policy, applies to you and the money is owed to you. The contracting firm has no say in the matter, they are legally bound to pay you for it because you are the clinics employee. Your salary is not discretionary.
The clinic is surprised that you weren't hired. That's likely a cover story (it always is.) Because you've been hired all this time.
Try to the IRS duck test for employment. I'm quite certain you are a clear cut clinical employee.
Remember in the US, who pays you is not a factor in who is your employer. You are employed by the company that you spend your time with and who directs your work. If you are full time with a single client, you might be paid as if you were a contractor, but you are an employee.
