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@Grey said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
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@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I've done a little bit of reading about COVID-19 (the new Coronavirus)... It seems to me that everybody is panicking simply because it's new?
It's new and so far it's deadlier and more infectious then the flu that we are used to.
I've seen published mortality rates for ages 60+ as high as 10%. These were probably inflated by news outlets rounding up, based on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/, but the comparison to having the flu is real, and if anyone has an immuno-suppressed or weakened condition, such as a cancer patient in chemo therapy, or idiot parents that refuse to vaccinate, then it can lead to a pretty serious situation. The highly infectious nature is also disturbing since it shows just how fast it spreads. Without any vaccine or cure, the best medicine is to be preventative.
I wonder what's the flu kill rate in that same age group. Probably high too, maybe not that high, but same principles apply, if you're old, sick or have otherwise compromised immune system, you're more likely to die from flu.
I would be one of those idiot parents too, my kid is fully vaccinated, including flu, but I'm not. I don't get flu shot because I'm scared shitless of needles. And I enjoy my yearly flu infection, I get to stay home for a day or 2 and play games lol.
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@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
Where are you getting this information? Everything that I've read says either that coronavirus is less deadly but more infectious or that we just don't know what to expect
The WHO has set the death rate so far at 3.4%. However that may be slightly inflated due to people not self-reporting when they are ill. https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---3-march-2020
Generally the flu kills far fewer then 1%.
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@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@wirestyle22 said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
Where are you getting this information? Everything that I've read says either that coronavirus is less deadly but more infectious or that we just don't know what to expect
The WHO has set the death rate so far at 3.4%. However that may be slightly inflated due to people not self-reporting when they are ill. https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---3-march-2020
Generally the flu kills far fewer then 1%.
Thanks I'll read this. The media is generally reporting a lot of mixed info
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@marcinozga said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I don't get flu shot because I'm scared shitless of needles.
I'm probably being an idiot too, but I swear the only time I get the flu is when I get the flu shot. Most likely it's coincidence... but I still skip them now. I've gotten 2 flu shots in my adult life. First, the year my wife got pregnant with our first kid, and I got the flu that year. Second, when our second kid was born, also got the flu that year. The only 2 times in my adult life that I got it, were when I had the shots. Go figure.
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@bnrstnr said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@marcinozga said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I don't get flu shot because I'm scared shitless of needles.
I'm probably being an idiot too, but I swear the only time I get the flu is when I get the flu shot. Most likely it's coincidence... but I still skip them now. I've gotten 2 flu shots in my adult life. First, the year my wife got pregnant with our first kid, and I got the flu that year. Second, when our second kid was born, also got the flu that year. The only 2 times in my adult life that I got it, were when I had the shots. Go figure.
I know folks from both campus: Those who swear by the flu shot, and those who swear they get the flu every time they get the shot. I've never had a flu shot, so I'm not sure which camp I fall into.
My body is able to fight it off in a few days, so I'm good. If I get to where I have trouble getting over it, then I'll probably consider it more. I didn't even get the flu this year (knocks on wood), so I'll be one of those idiots too, until my body tells me different.
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@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
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@marcinozga said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I don't get flu shot because I'm scared shitless of needles.
I'm probably being an idiot too, but I swear the only time I get the flu is when I get the flu shot. Most likely it's coincidence... but I still skip them now. I've gotten 2 flu shots in my adult life. First, the year my wife got pregnant with our first kid, and I got the flu that year. Second, when our second kid was born, also got the flu that year. The only 2 times in my adult life that I got it, were when I had the shots. Go figure.
I know folks from both campus: Those who swear by the flu shot, and those who swear they get the flu every time they get the shot. I've never had a flu shot, so I'm not sure which camp I fall into.
My body is able to fight it off in a few days, so I'm good. If I get to where I have trouble getting over it, then I'll probably consider it more. I didn't even get the flu this year (knocks on wood), so I'll be one of those idiots too, until my body tells me different.
The shot is the flu virus, just dead/inactive, and that's suppose to force our bodies into producing antibodies. Perhaps it makes some people sick, or the virus in the shot isn't completely neutralized, I don't know, I'm not healthcare professional, so I can only speculate.
My body is also able to deal with flu easily, so the shot wouldn't provide much benefit for me either. I also know a family where all but but father got the shot, and all but father got the flu, go figure. My kid gets it, so if/when he gets the flu, his symptoms shouldn't be that bad. And unlike Covid-19, flu does kill children too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
The Chive reported last night how the US is suppressing Covid-19 reports and how there are very few tests and people are being turned away in droves, including health care workers exposing other people.
Very possible that the infection rate in the US is orders of magnitude higher than is being reported because of the laundry list of things required to have in order to "qualify" has having it.
Accurate numbers would require every person in the world with cold or flu like symptoms to be tested, and this is just not realistic. Most will not even realize it's Corvid19. It's really just a matter of time before we all get it. Nothing to do about it.
My guess is that most of the reported cases are the worst cases, still not an accurate number to start generalizing with. I want to see the age group data of all reported cases.
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@Obsolesce said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I want to see the age group data of all reported cases.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/covid-19-2.001.jpeg
Figures are from China, but given that 80% cases are from there, it should be accurate.
Original article https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/03/dont-panic-the-comprehensive-ars-technica-guide-to-the-coronavirus/ -
@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@Obsolesce said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
Corvid19
lol.
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Romania infected today. And in the small village taht I used to live in!
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@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I've done a little bit of reading about COVID-19 (the new Coronavirus)... It seems to me that everybody is panicking simply because it's new?
It's new and so far it's deadlier and more infectious then the flu that we are used to.
There have been 2 cases of it in Georgia (and another 200 people being monitored for it), and the University system is already prepping to shut down, just, so it seems. I feel like it's a bit of a knee-jerk reaction.
Not to belittle your stance here, but viruses are known to change pretty consistently (flu does so every year) and those changes could cause all sorts of things. Like cause tumors or bleeding from your eyes or anything else.
This is a valid reaction to the spread of this virus, if anything a bit of an underwhelming reaction to it.
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@DustinB3403 said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I've done a little bit of reading about COVID-19 (the new Coronavirus)... It seems to me that everybody is panicking simply because it's new?
It's new and so far it's deadlier and more infectious then the flu that we are used to.
There have been 2 cases of it in Georgia (and another 200 people being monitored for it), and the University system is already prepping to shut down, just, so it seems. I feel like it's a bit of a knee-jerk reaction.
Not to belittle your stance here, but viruses are known to change pretty consistently (flu does so every year) and those changes could cause all sorts of things.
I don't feel belittled at all, so no worries... and yeah the bugs change up quite often.
Like cause tumors or bleeding from your eyes or anything else.
Fortunately, I've never heard of the flu doing this... but the new one hasn't been around long yet and my eye has been a bit itchy the las 30 minutes or so).
This is a valid reaction to the spread of this virus, if anything a bit of an underwhelming reaction to it.
Maybe knee-jerk was the wrong word pick, because I don't think it's an invalid reaction. I think it's just a lot stronger than I expected.
Edit: I found out that GA is up to 6 confirmed cases a litle bit ago.
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The issues seen in Italy:
New virus: no cure you are on your own. Too weak means you die.
Reason you die: std side effects of unthreated flu on weak people (mostly old people etc..). Covid being able to go deeper in the lungs causing primary type pneumonia (primary=directly caused by virus not by the weakening and by subsequent bacteria installation) which is dangerous even for young people.Main issues: high diffusivity rate, high number of people to require machines to breath. Not enough machines in Italy.
Basically covid is more dangerous than flu but not so dangerous. Unfortunately the sizing of our hospital facilities is not enough to host all the people in need. Therefore, before we have to let people selectively die, government has imposed a quarantine.
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@DustinB3403 said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
Not to belittle your stance here, but viruses are known to change pretty consistently (flu does so every year) and those changes could cause all sorts of things. Like cause tumors or bleeding from your eyes or anything else.
This is asinine as no known influenza or corona virus strain has ever done anything of the sort.
While the influenza changes yearly, it is still able to be categorized into 4 strains, and only 2 of those 4 strains are part of the "yearly flu"
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Congress is advised to use Vulcan greeting.
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@DustinB3403 said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I've done a little bit of reading about COVID-19 (the new Coronavirus)... It seems to me that everybody is panicking simply because it's new?
It's new and so far it's deadlier and more infectious then the flu that we are used to.
There have been 2 cases of it in Georgia (and another 200 people being monitored for it), and the University system is already prepping to shut down, just, so it seems. I feel like it's a bit of a knee-jerk reaction.
Not to belittle your stance here, but viruses are known to change pretty consistently (flu does so every year) and those changes could cause all sorts of things. Like cause tumors or bleeding from your eyes or anything else.
This is a valid reaction to the spread of this virus, if anything a bit of an underwhelming reaction to it.
If it changed that much every year, we'd all be dead by now.
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@bnrstnr said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@marcinozga said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I don't get flu shot because I'm scared shitless of needles.
I'm probably being an idiot too,
You are. Get a shot every year and your perspective will be different. You would instead be saying you got the flu 2 times in XX years of getting flu shots.
Our family is a generally healthy family and we get flu shots yearly. It is free (well paid as part of our health insurance premium). Have I ever gotten the flu with a flu shot? No. Have my kids? Yes, in different years, not at the same time. Have I gotten the flu in years past (prior to marriage & kids) with and without a flu shot? Yes to both.
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@Obsolesce said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@scottalanmiller said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
The Chive reported last night how the US is suppressing Covid-19 reports and how there are very few tests and people are being turned away in droves, including health care workers exposing other people.
Very possible that the infection rate in the US is orders of magnitude higher than is being reported because of the laundry list of things required to have in order to "qualify" has having it.
Accurate numbers would require every person in the world with cold or flu like symptoms to be tested, and this is just not realistic. Most will not even realize it's Corvid19. It's really just a matter of time before we all get it. Nothing to do about it.
My guess is that most of the reported cases are the worst cases, still not an accurate number to start generalizing with. I want to see the age group data of all reported cases.
Correct, because Covid 19, like all coronavirus strains generally present mild respiratory tract infections. But, yes, respiratory tract. So not breathing can be a bad thing.
Yes, Covid 19 is worse than the SARS and MERS strains were.
No the fucking world is not ending.Yes, Covid 19 is much deadlier among the older/vulnerable population than SAR and MERS were.
