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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @DustinB3403
      last edited by gjacobse

      @DustinB3403 said:

      I honestly don't care, but to moderate someone giving advice because someone is butt-hurt is f[moderated]ing stupid.

      And totally agreed unless it resorts to terrible name calling and personal attacks.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill said:

        "And here we go again" LOL

        Yeah, I disliked that one because I know why it was said - not because it was another newbie posting the same mistakes without having taken any effort to know what the accumulated community knowledge was, but because we were trying to inform that newbie of that knowledge. He was basically "Oh brother, here we go again not just congratulating someone and not holding them to a high standard."

        Which I understand why people are tired of the bar being held high, but likewise, we are tired of people asking the same questions and making the same mistakes without learning. It's not a rare one, this. It comes up, quite literally, daily. So it isn't like he would have to had stuck around. ANY effort would have shown him that this would have been the response. An algorithm could have done the response, it is so canned by now.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said:

          FYI my account is now in moderation, because I'm being honest, trying to have a adult conversation about the topic at hand.

          Your account is probably in moderation for being an asshat. Not only were you rude about it in the thread that was removed, you saved the screenshot and reposted it in another thread.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said:

            @DustinB3403 said:

            FYI my account is now in moderation, because I'm being honest, trying to have a adult conversation about the topic at hand.

            Your account is probably in moderation for being an asshat. Not only were you rude about it in the thread that was removed, you saved the screenshot and reposted it in another thread.

            Yeah; Well you're a prick. How do you like them apples?

            FYI the pic was returned to the condition in which it was, without the OP's information.
            😛

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said:

              @JaredBusch said:

              @DustinB3403 said:

              FYI my account is now in moderation, because I'm being honest, trying to have a adult conversation about the topic at hand.

              Your account is probably in moderation for being an asshat. Not only were you rude about it in the thread that was removed, you saved the screenshot and reposted it in another thread.

              Yeah; Well you're a prick. How do you like them apples?

              FYI the pic was returned to the condition in which it was, without the OP's information.
              😛

              Don't Sweat JB, Dustin - he's an asshat at times too. 😉

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              • brianlittlejohnB
                brianlittlejohn
                last edited by

                We are all asshats at times... that is what makes ML great!

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  I have never claimed to be perfect. But acting all innocent here is certainly an inaccurate portrayal.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    I have never claimed to be perfect. But acting all innocent here is certainly an inaccurate portrayal.

                    Absolutely - and I did see some of the thread - Scott and Dustin where their normal selves (I would have been too if I had posted). The problem with forums is a lack of emotional balance from ton, facial expressions, etc.

                    Take that piled on with millennials wanting to be coddled all the time, and we have an overly sensitive situation.

                    It does take an overly large amount of effort to write a post that while not being PC is also not potentially viewed as condescending or any other adjective you want to use.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      I have never claimed to be perfect. But acting all innocent here is certainly an inaccurate portrayal.

                      I've never acted innocent here. Simply stating for those watching the topic that might be wondering why I'm not responding to the topic.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        I took a few asshatty comments when I first came here, and then realized...Hey, nothing personal. I'm sure anyone here would have a drink after acting like an asshat. It's what we do.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          This poor guy inherited a setup with a failed RAID 5 array and no working backup system. The array rebuilt but the filesystem had corrupted during the extended array failure. Whoever was there before him really set that company up well.

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                          • Reid CooperR
                            Reid Cooper
                            last edited by

                            Ouch, that one is going to be rough. He's very lucky that he did not lose the entire array.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Okay, really? I think this is what is called being an "askhole". Guys comes in with zero knowledge of what to do and asks the community what RAID level to select. Everyone, literally every single person, gives the same advice: RAID 6 or RAID 10. Every person.

                              When he finally responds he has clearly not read one thing on the thread and just says thanks... installing RAID 5 now.

                              I looked through the thread, what he decided to do was never mentioned once. Not as a joke, not by someone who didn't know better, not as a warning... in no way was it possible that he was confused. He simply asked a question, ignored that people responded and did the dumbest possible thing. He is exactly Hyacinth Bucket asking Richard how his day was.

                              http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1423518-raid-questions

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by stacksofplates

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Okay, really? I think this is what is called being an "askhole". Guys comes in with zero knowledge of what to do and asks the community what RAID level to select. Everyone, literally every single person, gives the same advice: RAID 6 or RAID 10. Every person.

                                When he finally responds he has clearly not read one thing on the thread and just says thanks... installing RAID 5 now.

                                I looked through the thread, what he decided to do was never mentioned once. Not as a joke, not by someone who didn't know better, not as a warning... in no way was it possible that he was confused. He simply asked a question, ignored that people responded and did the dumbest possible thing. He is exactly Hyacinth Bucket asking Richard how his day was.

                                http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1423518-raid-questions

                                You should have recommended RAID 0 and told him to hot swap after his data was copied over.

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                                  nadnerB
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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @nadnerB
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                                    @nadnerB said:

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                                    I've been known to ask people what they'd do, just to eliminate that option. Thankfully I don't have anyone handy for that sort of thing where I'm working now.

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                                    • mlnewsM
                                      mlnews
                                      last edited by

                                      Saw one today... guy appears to have had a Dell salesman do the system design. Ended up spending $22,000 to get an IPOD that was super fragile and was a full 3-2-1, because it was a SAN not a DAS IPOD! And they sold VMware licensing on top of it. So the total cost of $22K provided a system that did less than they could have done for $3K. $19K of lost money on that one sale.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @mlnews
                                        last edited by

                                        @mlnews said:

                                        .... $19K pure profit gain on that one sale.

                                        I've FTFY.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by DustinB3403

                                          I don't feel bad in the least..

                                          "We had a user infected with the locky virus and now its spread to the shares on the fileserver.

                                          Anyone encountered this before on a server side and what did you do to fix? We have backups the only problem this a physical server which is our only DC, WSUS, Exchanged DB, Sharepoint etc."

                                          Single server running physically that is hosting DC services, WSUS, Exchange, Sharepoint and more....

                                          I do not feel bad in the least.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said

                                            Single server running physically that is hosting DC services, WSUS, Exchange, Sharepoint and more....

                                            Not unheard of in the SOHO/SMB space.

                                            Sometimes best practice for a particular situation is different than the industry standard best practice.

                                            As a reference, my decision, with a lot of ML input, to only run one DC in my smallish environment.

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