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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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      @johnhooks said:

      For ~$50 more you could buy a small Sophos UTM.

      Never, ever, buy a UTM, from any vendor. I hate the entire concept of putting everything in a single device.

      @johnhooks said:

      Or save money like Scott said and get all ubiquiti.

      No. This listed device contains an AC chip. It is impossible to do this with Ubiquiti and be cheaper. The lowest I have ever seen their UAP-AC go for is $250.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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        @anonymous said:

        The perfect home setup is:

        1) Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X
        http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/

        2) Ubiquiti Networks UniFi AP
        http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-UniFi-Enterprise-System/dp/B004XXMUCQ/

        3) TP-LINK TL-SG108E 8-Port Gigabit Easy Smart Switch
        http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG108E-8-Port-Gigabit-Tag-Based/dp/B00K4DS5KU/

        This is a solid home user setup alright as long as you do not need/want the AC functionality.

        I will have to remember that TP-Link switch, though. That is a nice price point for the feature set.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          I am a big believer in being wired whenever possible.

          I fall in this camp. Wired performance will always be better than wireless.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said:

            @johnhooks said:

            For ~$50 more you could buy a small Sophos UTM.

            Never, ever, buy a UTM, from any vendor. I hate the entire concept of putting everything in a single device.

            Like a hypervisor?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @stacksofplates
              last edited by

              @johnhooks said:

              Like a hypervisor?

              No, like a UTM in your router.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                last edited by

                @johnhooks said:

                Like a hypervisor?

                not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by stacksofplates

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  Like a hypervisor?

                  not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

                  Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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                    @johnhooks said:

                    Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                    That is not even close to the same thing and being intentionally obtuse about the discussion.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                      last edited by

                      @johnhooks said:

                      Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                      Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @johnhooks said:

                        Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                        Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

                        I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                          @johnhooks said:

                          I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                          No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @johnhooks said:

                            I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                            No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                            Oh OK. Makes sense. Sorry @JaredBusch I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I promise.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                              Ha like Synology putting web servers and DNS servers on their NAS units?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                                *cough* Synology *cough*

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  *cough* Synology *cough*

                                  Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                                    Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      They do get pretty extreme with it.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                                        Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

                                        Haha this is too far? 😛

                                        Synology_Software.jpg

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          ReadyNAS has an awful lot too.

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                            @johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol

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