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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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      @johnhooks said:

      Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

      Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @johnhooks said:

        Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

        Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

        I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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          @johnhooks said:

          I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

          No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @johnhooks said:

            I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

            No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

            Oh OK. Makes sense. Sorry @JaredBusch I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I promise.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

              Ha like Synology putting web servers and DNS servers on their NAS units?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                *cough* Synology *cough*

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said:

                  *cough* Synology *cough*

                  Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                    Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      They do get pretty extreme with it.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                        Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

                        Haha this is too far? 😛

                        Synology_Software.jpg

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          ReadyNAS has an awful lot too.

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                            @johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @MattSpeller
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                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol

                              hahaha. I can't believe someone would use that for a directory server or mail server. I kind of want to see what would happen if you turn everything on.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                @johnhooks Synology's best Chernobyl impression no doubt

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @MattSpeller
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                                  @MattSpeller I just told my wife this last night. It's funny how avatars change perception of things. Every post I read of yours comes out in a Ron Swanson voice in my head. I love it.

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                    @johnhooks By using his pic for my avatar I hope to one day gain some of the powers he keeps in his moustache.

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