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@JaredBusch said:
@johnhooks said:
For ~$50 more you could buy a small Sophos UTM.
Never, ever, buy a UTM, from any vendor. I hate the entire concept of putting everything in a single device.
Like a hypervisor?
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@johnhooks said:
Like a hypervisor?
No, like a UTM in your router.
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@johnhooks said:
Like a hypervisor?
not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Like a hypervisor?
not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?
Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.
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@johnhooks said:
Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.
That is not even close to the same thing and being intentionally obtuse about the discussion.
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@johnhooks said:
Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.
Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.
Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.
I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.
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@johnhooks said:
I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.
No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.
No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.
Oh OK. Makes sense. Sorry @JaredBusch I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I promise.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.
Ha like Synology putting web servers and DNS servers on their NAS units?
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@scottalanmiller said:
No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.
*cough* Synology *cough*
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@JaredBusch said:
*cough* Synology *cough*
Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.
Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.
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They do get pretty extreme with it.
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.
Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.
Haha this is too far?
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ReadyNAS has an awful lot too.
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@johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol
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@MattSpeller said:
@johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol
hahaha. I can't believe someone would use that for a directory server or mail server. I kind of want to see what would happen if you turn everything on.
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@johnhooks Synology's best Chernobyl impression no doubt
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@MattSpeller I just told my wife this last night. It's funny how avatars change perception of things. Every post I read of yours comes out in a Ron Swanson voice in my head. I love it.
