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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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      @anonymous said:

      The perfect home setup is:

      1) Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X
      http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/

      2) Ubiquiti Networks UniFi AP
      http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-UniFi-Enterprise-System/dp/B004XXMUCQ/

      3) TP-LINK TL-SG108E 8-Port Gigabit Easy Smart Switch
      http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG108E-8-Port-Gigabit-Tag-Based/dp/B00K4DS5KU/

      This is a solid home user setup alright as long as you do not need/want the AC functionality.

      I will have to remember that TP-Link switch, though. That is a nice price point for the feature set.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        I am a big believer in being wired whenever possible.

        I fall in this camp. Wired performance will always be better than wireless.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said:

          @johnhooks said:

          For ~$50 more you could buy a small Sophos UTM.

          Never, ever, buy a UTM, from any vendor. I hate the entire concept of putting everything in a single device.

          Like a hypervisor?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @stacksofplates
            last edited by

            @johnhooks said:

            Like a hypervisor?

            No, like a UTM in your router.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
              last edited by

              @johnhooks said:

              Like a hypervisor?

              not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                last edited by stacksofplates

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @johnhooks said:

                Like a hypervisor?

                not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

                Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @stacksofplates
                  last edited by

                  @johnhooks said:

                  Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                  That is not even close to the same thing and being intentionally obtuse about the discussion.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                    last edited by

                    @johnhooks said:

                    Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                    Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @johnhooks said:

                      Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                      Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

                      I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                        last edited by

                        @johnhooks said:

                        I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                        No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                          No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                          Oh OK. Makes sense. Sorry @JaredBusch I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I promise.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                            Ha like Synology putting web servers and DNS servers on their NAS units?

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                              *cough* Synology *cough*

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                *cough* Synology *cough*

                                Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                                  Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    They do get pretty extreme with it.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                                      Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

                                      Haha this is too far? 😛

                                      Synology_Software.jpg

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        ReadyNAS has an awful lot too.

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @stacksofplates
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @MattSpeller
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                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol

                                            hahaha. I can't believe someone would use that for a directory server or mail server. I kind of want to see what would happen if you turn everything on.

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