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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      I am a big believer in being wired whenever possible.

      I fall in this camp. Wired performance will always be better than wireless.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said:

        @johnhooks said:

        For ~$50 more you could buy a small Sophos UTM.

        Never, ever, buy a UTM, from any vendor. I hate the entire concept of putting everything in a single device.

        Like a hypervisor?

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @stacksofplates
          last edited by

          @johnhooks said:

          Like a hypervisor?

          No, like a UTM in your router.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
            last edited by

            @johnhooks said:

            Like a hypervisor?

            not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @johnhooks said:

              Like a hypervisor?

              not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

              Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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                @johnhooks said:

                Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                That is not even close to the same thing and being intentionally obtuse about the discussion.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                  @johnhooks said:

                  Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                  Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @johnhooks said:

                    Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                    Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

                    I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                      @johnhooks said:

                      I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                      No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @johnhooks said:

                        I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                        No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                        Oh OK. Makes sense. Sorry @JaredBusch I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I promise.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                          Ha like Synology putting web servers and DNS servers on their NAS units?

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                            *cough* Synology *cough*

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said:

                              *cough* Synology *cough*

                              Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                                Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  They do get pretty extreme with it.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                                    Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

                                    Haha this is too far? 😛

                                    Synology_Software.jpg

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      ReadyNAS has an awful lot too.

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                        @johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @MattSpeller
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                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol

                                          hahaha. I can't believe someone would use that for a directory server or mail server. I kind of want to see what would happen if you turn everything on.

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                            @johnhooks Synology's best Chernobyl impression no doubt

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