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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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      @johnhooks said:

      Like a hypervisor?

      No, like a UTM in your router.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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        @johnhooks said:

        Like a hypervisor?

        not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @johnhooks said:

          Like a hypervisor?

          not sure what you mean. How does a hypervisor put lots of things on one device?

          Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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            @johnhooks said:

            Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

            That is not even close to the same thing and being intentionally obtuse about the discussion.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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              @johnhooks said:

              Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

              Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @johnhooks said:

                Multiple vms on one physical device, unless you have HA.

                Physical device is not the same as mixing code or functions in a single container. Hypervisor also does not imply running multiple VMs, only hardware abstraction. HA doesn't change anything that I can tell, not sure what you were meaning by that.

                I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                  @johnhooks said:

                  I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                  No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @johnhooks said:

                    I was assuming he meant it was a single point of failure, which is why I said that.

                    No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                    Oh OK. Makes sense. Sorry @JaredBusch I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I promise.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                      Ha like Synology putting web servers and DNS servers on their NAS units?

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        No, it's about mixing workloads. There is a lot of value to "do one thing, do it well." UTMs don't do this. Everything is mashed onto one box. Rather like people throwing every little workload onto a NAS. It isn't designed for that.

                        *cough* Synology *cough*

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said:

                          *cough* Synology *cough*

                          Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                            Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              They do get pretty extreme with it.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Yeah, but all of them in that general category do it too. None of them advise it, all of them allow it.

                                Not a single one I have seen takes it as far as Synology though.

                                Haha this is too far? 😛

                                Synology_Software.jpg

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  ReadyNAS has an awful lot too.

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                    @johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @MattSpeller
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                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @johnhooks Oh good grief I thought you had all that installed on yours for a sec and I almost wept for your users lol

                                      hahaha. I can't believe someone would use that for a directory server or mail server. I kind of want to see what would happen if you turn everything on.

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                        @johnhooks Synology's best Chernobyl impression no doubt

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @MattSpeller
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                                          @MattSpeller I just told my wife this last night. It's funny how avatars change perception of things. Every post I read of yours comes out in a Ron Swanson voice in my head. I love it.

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @stacksofplates
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                                            @johnhooks By using his pic for my avatar I hope to one day gain some of the powers he keeps in his moustache.

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