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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @StuartJordan
      last edited by

      @stuartjordan said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

      Nice step by step Tim, are you using KIM yourself in production?

      Just one KVM server. The rest are VMWare and Hyper-V, though I'm actively replacing VMWare with KVM.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce
        last edited by Obsolesce

        Here's a screenshot some might appreciate. Here's how I installed the MATE Desktop via CLI:

        dnf -y group install "MATE Desktop"
echo "exec /usr/bin/mate-session" >> ~/.xinitrc
reboot now
startx

        So, if you need it, it's there. But I wouldn't recommend installing the MATE Desktop group on production servers.

        0_1502054486407_Untitled.jpg

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        • magicmarkerM
          magicmarker @Obsolesce
          last edited by

          @tim_g I was looking for a decent GUI interface to build a KVM Hypervisor for a SAM-SD. See my post here. Thanks for posting this.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

              Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

              Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

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              • Emad RE
                Emad R @Obsolesce
                last edited by Emad R

                @tim_g

                I like , and I do use this but a couple of pointers:

                Minimal setup can be:
                wget http://kimchi-project.github.io/wok/downloads/latest/wok.el7.centos.noarch.rpm
                wget http://kimchi-project.github.io/kimchi/downloads/latest/kimchi.el7.centos.noarch.rpm

                Cause you are downloading this on server, and gingerbase is good and all, but it just provides the monitoring and shutdown of Host, which can be optional.

                Secondly Kimchi is very modular, and you can stop it :

                systemctl stop wokd
systemctl stop nginx

                And you are back to Vanilla KVM, what I do is I rely on cockpit and have those packages ready if needed. and start them manually / on demand. cause they do consume some RAM. but still very neat ESXi contender.

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                • PenguinWranglerP
                  PenguinWrangler @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                  @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                  Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

                  Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

                  Do you have more info on this?

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @PenguinWrangler
                    last edited by

                    @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                    @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                    @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                    Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

                    Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

                    Do you have more info on this?

                    @KOOLER (from Starwind) posted about it this morning in another thread.

                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/14684/looking-for-virtualization-advice/34

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                    • PenguinWranglerP
                      PenguinWrangler @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                      @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                      @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                      @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                      Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

                      Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

                      Do you have more info on this?

                      @KOOLER (from Starwind) posted about it this morning in another thread.

                      https://mangolassi.it/topic/14684/looking-for-virtualization-advice/34

                      I literally stopped reading that thread the post before his post! Got busy.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @magicmarker
                        last edited by

                        @magicmarker said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                        @tim_g I was looking for a decent GUI interface to build a KVM Hypervisor for a SAM-SD. See my post here. Thanks for posting this.

                        Ah, I completely missed that topic or I would have referenced this one in there for you.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @PenguinWrangler
                          last edited by

                          @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                          @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                          @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                          @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                          @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                          Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

                          Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

                          Do you have more info on this?

                          @KOOLER (from Starwind) posted about it this morning in another thread.

                          https://mangolassi.it/topic/14684/looking-for-virtualization-advice/34

                          I literally stopped reading that thread the post before his post! Got busy.

                          Lol, me too!

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                            @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                            Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

                            Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

                            I hope it's nice and featureful.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                              Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                              I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

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                              • PenguinWranglerP
                                PenguinWrangler @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                                Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                                I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                                Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @PenguinWrangler
                                  last edited by

                                  @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                  @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                  I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                                  Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                                  I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                                  Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                                  SPICE sets up a channel for each item. If you set up key based access it won't do that any more. Adding your user to the libvirt group helps management a lot also.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @PenguinWrangler
                                    last edited by

                                    @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                    @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                    I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                                    Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                                    I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                                    Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                                    If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.

                                    I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                      @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                      @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                      I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                                      Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                                      I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                                      Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                                      If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.

                                      I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.

                                      Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.

                                      I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by

                                        @Tim_G Is this is just a 1:1 or can you use this install to manage multiple KVM hosts?

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @FATeknollogee
                                          last edited by

                                          @fateknollogee said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                          @Tim_G Is this is just a 1:1 or can you use this install to manage multiple KVM hosts?

                                          I'm not sure I understand the question, but I'll try.

                                          My step-by-step guide is for each host you want to set up.

                                          Then on your Fedora-based workstation/laptop, you can use VMM to view and manage all of your hosts and VMs. This will rely on you being on the local network physically, or via VPN.

                                          Via the web (the Kimchi host/VM manager), that's per host. You need to go to the https://ip:8001 for each host you want to manage. This could potentially be done simply via any web browser anywhere in the world you have an internet connection, without the need to VPN.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                                            Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                                            I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                                            Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                                            If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.

                                            I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.

                                            Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.

                                            I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.

                                            Use keys and it won't matter

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