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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

      Zero. All Linux of some sort.

      Can't wait till we are there. Just have that one pesky old server to sort out.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        Does running Hyper-V server count? I mean it is Microsoft.

        Client A:

        • Hyper Server 2012 R2 x 2
        • Server 2012 R2 Standard VM x2
        • CentOS 7 VM x3

        So either 57.14% (4 of 7) or 40.0% (2/5) depending on if the Hypervisor counts.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

          Does running Hyper-V server count? I mean it is Microsoft.

          Client A:

          • Hyper Server 2012 R2 x 2
          • Server 2012 R2 Standard VM x2
          • CentOS 7 VM x3

          So either 57.14% (4 of 7) or 40.0% (2/5) depending on if the Hypervisor counts.

          I don't think that the hypervisor counts, or else VMware would count against the MS count, too.

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          • IRJI
            IRJ @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

            @JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

            Does running Hyper-V server count? I mean it is Microsoft.

            Client A:

            • Hyper Server 2012 R2 x 2
            • Server 2012 R2 Standard VM x2
            • CentOS 7 VM x3

            So either 57.14% (4 of 7) or 40.0% (2/5) depending on if the Hypervisor counts.

            I don't think that the hypervisor counts, or else VMware would count against the MS count, too.

            You still have to patch it and do more management then you would with VMware

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce
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              Linux = 28.75%
              Windows = 71.25%

              Physical Linux: 13
              Physical Windows: 14

              Virtual Linux: 10
              Virtual Windows: 43 (because of DataCenter licensing)

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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                @Tim_G Why is any of it physical?

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                  @Tim_G Why is any of it physical?

                  If his place is anything like mine there's just stuff you haven't gotten to yet

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @MattSpeller
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                    @MattSpeller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                    @DustinB3403 said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                    @Tim_G Why is any of it physical?

                    If his place is anything like mine there's just stuff you haven't gotten to yet

                    This pretty much says it all.

                    There was a lot of custom stuff before I started. So it's not as simple running P2V, bang bang done. At the same time consolidating. There was definite physical server sprawl, complicated configurations. Much of it was old outdated Linux and Windows physical servers such as 2000, 2003, wayyyy (old) unsupported CentOS, FreeBSD, and Ubuntu. A bunch of other stuff that couldn't be virtualized. So not only couldn't I do P2V, it had to be rebuilt from scratch on a different OS... Software updated, the list goes on.

                    How it was when I started, all the VMs were physical, plus more because of too much role separation. Plus a lot of IPODs with old SANs and such (no clustering).

                    It started out as a garage shop, grew to a multinational company in like 30 countries, and never left the garage shop mentality... so you can use your imagination to get a better picture of how thing were, and how far it has come with the numbers I provided. Lots of stuff coming up in the meantime too... huge projects.

                    Still a lot of work to do, and no time to do it.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver
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                      77% Windows here. Lots of stuff could be ported over to *nix but there has been no drive to do it.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @coliver
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                        @coliver said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                        77% Windows here. Lots of stuff could be ported over to *nix but there has been no drive to do it.

                        The only currently supported thing that we have that uses Windows server is our accounting package, which runs on postgreSQL. What I'm not sure of is if there is an actual server side component to this, or if the DB is all that is really running on the server. It's Business Works (formerly Business Works Gold).

                        Of course out old, no supported, yet still required EHR system runs on IIS and won't be ported to another platform, so it's stuck.

                        The rest though could all be replaced with nix derivatives.

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                        • Son of Jor-ElS
                          Son of Jor-El
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                          Right now 100% that are running. I shut down a couple of Linux server that were no longer needed.

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                          • Deleted74295D
                            Deleted74295 Banned
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                            15% Windows.

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                            • EddieJenningsE
                              EddieJennings
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                              92% Windows: 11 of 12 server instances.

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                              • art_of_shredA
                                art_of_shred Banned
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                                I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                                  @art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                  I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.

                                  Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                    @art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                    I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.

                                    Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.

                                    Cross-section is irrelevant. The question was what is the percent windows for wherever you are wherever you've seen. You can push your agenda and think that oh my gosh all these other places are not windows but you're not there you're making assumptions based on your own biases

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                      @art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                      I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.

                                      Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.

                                      Cross-section is irrelevant. The question was what is the percent windows for wherever you are wherever you've seen. You can push your agenda and think that oh my gosh all these other places are not windows but you're not there you're making assumptions based on your own biases

                                      As can you. Understanding that it's a reference specifically created by supporting specifically Windows is absolutely necessary so get off the high horse. And he left out that he was installing Linux at all if those costumers, too.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Pointing out important facts isn't bias. But your post is clearly emotional response to basic info.

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                                        • art_of_shredA
                                          art_of_shred Banned @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                          @art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                          I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.

                                          Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.

                                          Cross-section is irrelevant. The question was what is the percent windows for wherever you are wherever you've seen. You can push your agenda and think that oh my gosh all these other places are not windows but you're not there you're making assumptions based on your own biases

                                          As I specifically noted that it was related to Unitrends, and was primarily SMB, that shows that I defined the space I was describing and didn't just say "companies everywhere".

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                                            @art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                            @JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                            @art_of_shred said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

                                            I spent about 3 years doing installs for Unitrends, so I saw the internal workings of a few hundred SMB businesses over that time. We're not talking Fortune 100 companies, but many businesses with multiple locations, schools, municipalities, and some in Canada and the UK. Of those varied businesses/entities, I would be making a large stretch to estimate that even 10% of all of the servers I saw were non-MS. It was probably between 5 and 10%, closer to 5%. Maybe 1% AIX. I saw a small handful of Groupwise, and a slight bit more Novell Netware. Ubuntu was more popular than RHEL. Mac was virtually non-existent. In fact, I think one company wanted to protect about 25 workstations (not the norm in any way, but we're talking about Mac-user types...), and I don't think I touched more than 3 Macs outside of that in 3 years.

                                            Although that also limits you to specifically seeing Unitrends customers - a product that specifically targets the Windows space. So it's not an even cross section.

                                            Cross-section is irrelevant. The question was what is the percent windows for wherever you are wherever you've seen. You can push your agenda and think that oh my gosh all these other places are not windows but you're not there you're making assumptions based on your own biases

                                            As I specifically noted that it was related to Unitrends, and was primarily SMB, that shows that I defined the space I was describing and didn't just say "companies everywhere".

                                            But people who are not Unitrends installers might not understand that the product specifically targets a windows environments and that it is a Linux install. Your wording didn't tell anything important unless you are a Unitrends expert.

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