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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @dafyre
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      @dafyre said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

      @BRRABill said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

      The problem(s) I have is ...

      1. the current server room is poorly wired with access to electrical boxes
      2. some of the equipment I have in there has strange "the wrong way" power blocks

      I could re-use an older UPS, I guess. I'm just wondering, as I said, what others are doing.

      That's odd. We never got dinged for it at my last job. (Granted, we didn't use the $7 Dollar General special either).

      And at my current job, we use power bars made specifically for use in server racks. (these, I assume have the overcurrent protection, etc, etc).

      They haven't checked in a while, and I think maybe they were just looking to ding people.

      I also got dinged for not having ceiling tiles in our wiring room.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @Jason
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        @Jason said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

        @BRRABill said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

        @Jason said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

        What in the server room has wall warts? Most things use IEC cables direct or a Brick with an IEC to it.

        I have a couple of small switches in there with strange wall warts.

        I would replace the switches then..

        A definite possibility!

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          Or just find a better power adapter for the switch, one that will provide the correct power output, and fit in your UPS.

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            Jason Banned @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

            I also got dinged for not having ceiling tiles in our wiring room.

            That is normal if you have a drop ceiling. It's for a fire(smoke)/air barrier.

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse
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              I wonder if something of this sort would be allowed.... It's not a power strip. just power cords that are about a foot long to allow connection to the adapters.

              http://i.stack.imgur.com/8zW2l.jpg

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                I bet they would be. I'm sure the primary concern, as Jason rightly pointed out, was the overdrawn issue.

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                  Jason Banned @gjacobse
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                  @gjacobse said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

                  I wonder if something of this sort would be allowed.... It's not a power strip. just power cords that are about a foot long to allow connection to the adapters.

                  http://i.stack.imgur.com/8zW2l.jpg

                  No over current protection. Also this type device in a commerical setting falls under extension cord restrictions, which OSHA only allows temporary use of. Now if they are UL Listed for being plugged into a power strip in that manner it would be allowed.. (hence how C13 extensions are allowed) but otherwise they would have to be plugged directly into a wall outlet.

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                    Jason Banned
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                    EX: https://www.amazon.com/Solid-Cordz-Female-Extension-Cords/dp/B00CG70K78/ref=cm_cr_dp_asin_lnk

                    These are UL listed but likely not for that use.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
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                      Yeah these particular switches (workgroup Cisco SG-200-8) can't take that sort of plug.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        I'm assuming @gjacobse is talking about the black cord only.
                        https://i.imgur.com/oCkdbBE.png

                        I don't know OSHA law/rules, but there should be no need to check for over current in the black part, it's a 1 to 1 connection. Assuming you plug the 1 to 1 and it's plugged directly into a UPS port, not a power strip like this picture.

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

                          I'm assuming @gjacobse is talking about the black cord only.
                          https://i.imgur.com/oCkdbBE.png

                          I don't know OSHA law/rules, but there should be no need to check for over current in the black part, it's a 1 to 1 connection. Assuming you plug the 1 to 1 and it's plugged directly into a UPS port, not a power strip like this picture.

                          Correct. YOu would not use the power strip as you are using an UPS. Just use the cords to connect the adapter to the UPS as normal.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee
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                            How about one of these Eaton ePDU G3 units? https://powerquality.eaton.com/ePDUG3/default.asp

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                            • nadnerBN
                              nadnerB
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                              I think you've got it going the wrong way around. You should have mains power into the UPS (i.e. from the wall socket). Then IF you have to have a power board, plug that into the UPS. No power boards/strips in between the wall and UPS. Keep it simple. Less things to go pop in the night.

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                                Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

                                I'm assuming @gjacobse is talking about the black cord only.
                                https://i.imgur.com/oCkdbBE.png

                                I don't know OSHA law/rules, but there should be no need to check for over current in the black part, it's a 1 to 1 connection. Assuming you plug the 1 to 1 and it's plugged directly into a UPS port, not a power strip like this picture.

                                1:1 does not necessarily imply no over current protection is needed.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @Jason
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                                  @Jason said

                                  I would replace the switches then..

                                  Out of curiosity, what is the switch du jour these days? Was a firm decision ever made?

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

                                    @Jason said

                                    I would replace the switches then..

                                    Out of curiosity, what is the switch du jour these days? Was a firm decision ever made?

                                    Depends? I feel like switching has become a commodity. Ubiquiti has some nice switches, but so does Netgear.

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                                      Jason Banned @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

                                      @Jason said

                                      I would replace the switches then..

                                      Out of curiosity, what is the switch du jour these days? Was a firm decision ever made?

                                      That would depend on your needs.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @coliver
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                                        @coliver said

                                        Depends? I feel like switching has become a commodity. Ubiquiti has some nice switches, but so does Netgear.

                                        Yeah I guess there are enough discussions about this on other threads.

                                        🙂

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @Jason
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                                          @Jason said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

                                          @Dashrender said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

                                          I'm assuming @gjacobse is talking about the black cord only.
                                          https://i.imgur.com/oCkdbBE.png

                                          I don't know OSHA law/rules, but there should be no need to check for over current in the black part, it's a 1 to 1 connection. Assuming you plug the 1 to 1 and it's plugged directly into a UPS port, not a power strip like this picture.

                                          1:1 does not necessarily imply no over current protection is needed.

                                          At this point the assumption would be that the UPS you're plugging into would handle that.

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                                            Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

                                            @Jason said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

                                            @Dashrender said in Odd Shaped Power Bricks and UPS:

                                            I'm assuming @gjacobse is talking about the black cord only.
                                            https://i.imgur.com/oCkdbBE.png

                                            I don't know OSHA law/rules, but there should be no need to check for over current in the black part, it's a 1 to 1 connection. Assuming you plug the 1 to 1 and it's plugged directly into a UPS port, not a power strip like this picture.

                                            1:1 does not necessarily imply no over current protection is needed.

                                            At this point the assumption would be that the UPS you're plugging into would handle that.

                                            No it is not protecting the cable you plug into it, it may not be the same gauage for the amprage rating of the UPS protection. You also can't assume that. A lot of lower end UPSes do not have circuit breakers.

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