How a High Minimum Wage Can Cripple a Business
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@johnhooks said:
NYC is on track to have $15 min wage by 2018. These restaurants are just going to do what Sheetz (greatest gas station/fast food place ever) does.
OMG, we were discussing Sheetz down here in Panama just the other day and the efficiency of those screens!!
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@scottalanmiller We moved to Florida in 2013 and I went through withdrawal. We ended up moving back the beginning of this year because my daughter was born while we were here visiting family for Christmas. I think I ate Sheetz for a week straight.
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@johnhooks said:
NYC is on track to have $15 min wage by 2018. These restaurants are just going to do what Sheetz (greatest gas station/fast food place ever) does. They will just replace the order takers with touch screens (if you put your order in wrong, it's your fault) and possibly use the robot that Momentum Machines has created. It will slice the veggies fresh before it makes the burger, and it makes 360 burgers per hour (1 every 10 seconds). It doesn't come in to work sick, angry because of family, depressed, etc. The employer doesn't need to pay workers comp, liability insurance (for the robot), and the robot can't sue the company for any reason. It just does it's work as long as you maintain it.
The fact that fast food companies employ most of the people they do, is almost a charity at this point.
My wife's family is from Indiana PA.... we hit up Sheetz two or three times on the trip down. Can't get enough of it great food at a decent price.
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@coliver You're kidding. My wife is from Indiana. We actually live about 10 mins south of Indiana now.
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I was in a Panera bread on Monday in Elk Grove, IL (NW suburb of Chicago) and they now have screens installed for ordering. They were not active yet, but in testing.
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@JaredBusch said:
I was in a Panera bread on Monday in Elk Grove, IL (NW suburb of Chicago) and they now have screens installed for ordering. They were not active yet, but in testing.
Apple bee's has tablet things on the table to replace waiters. It let's you order, pay and ask for more drink etc/page someone. there is still someone to bring food out and drinks but there are getting replaced with technology. It's kinda sad. It's just not the same.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@JaredBusch said:
I was in a Panera bread on Monday in Elk Grove, IL (NW suburb of Chicago) and they now have screens installed for ordering. They were not active yet, but in testing.
Apple bee's has tablet things on the table to replace waiters. It let's you order, pay and ask for more drink etc/page someone. there is still someone to bring food out and drinks but there are getting replaced with technology. It's kinda sad. It's just not the same.
Have they fully committed to that? At the Applebees near our house they are on the table but there is still a waiter.
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Chili's has had those table display screens for years here, the waiter still takes the order... the only thing you can order from the screen is apps and desserts.
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@Dashrender said:
Chili's has had those table display screens for years here, the waiter still takes the order... the only thing you can order from the screen is apps and desserts.
I just saw one of those for the first time recently in Houston. I had no idea that they were putting them in. I feel like they are still testing it.
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We were able to order drinks from it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Chili's has had those table display screens for years here, the waiter still takes the order... the only thing you can order from the screen is apps and desserts.
I just saw one of those for the first time recently in Houston. I had no idea that they were putting them in. I feel like they are still testing it.
I haven't been to Chilli's so I'm not sure where they are at on their's here.
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We have to order from screens in McDonald's now. I guess you have that over there too? I thought I'd hate it, but actually it's not been too bad because I can never decide what I want and prefer to order without the pressure of a massive queue standing behind me.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
We have to order from screens in McDonald's now. I guess you have that over there too? I thought I'd hate it, but actually it's not been too bad because I can never decide what I want and prefer to order without the pressure of a massive queue standing behind me.
Nope. They still have the people that demand $15/hr pay but can't get the order right.
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And this video has been going around facebook about that.
https://www.facebook.com/kristi.homan/videos/10204870485549807/
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@Carnival-Boy said:
We have to order from screens in McDonald's now. I guess you have that over there too? I thought I'd hate it, but actually it's not been too bad because I can never decide what I want and prefer to order without the pressure of a massive queue standing behind me.
I would love that. But no, not in the US and not in Panama and not in Ireland or Spain both of which I was in recently.
Had the person get the order wrong (when I asked for "no meat" they decided that I must have meant "triple the meat") just yesterday.
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I have not seen any fast food places in the states using automated ordering machines yet.
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@Reid-Cooper said:
I have not seen any fast food places in the states using automated ordering machines yet.
I take it you haven't been to a Chili's or Applebee's lately? Both of them have the machines, some have more options enabled than others.
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@Dashrender said:
@Reid-Cooper said:
I have not seen any fast food places in the states using automated ordering machines yet.
I take it you haven't been to a Chili's or Applebee's lately? Both of them have the machines, some have more options enabled than others.
Don't really consider those to be fast food. Takes a while to eat there.
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@Reid-Cooper said:
@Dashrender said:
@Reid-Cooper said:
I have not seen any fast food places in the states using automated ordering machines yet.
I take it you haven't been to a Chili's or Applebee's lately? Both of them have the machines, some have more options enabled than others.
Don't really consider those to be fast food. Takes a while to eat there.
Doh.. missed the fast food part of your post.... Yeah I haven't seen any fast food self ordering either (unless you count ordering from Taco Bell using their new phone App.
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This was in my paper yesterday: Waitress service comes to McDonald's http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/aug/05/mcdonalds-table-service-trial-uk-fast-food
I like McDonald's and eat there a lot. Mainly because my kids like it, the food is consistently ok, the price dirt cheap and I've always found the service to be pretty good. From the article, it sounds like they're better in Europe than the US though (or more likely, the competition is much better in the US).
