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    • CCWTechC
      CCWTech @JasGot
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      @JasGot Thanks. I'll take a look.

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      • CCWTechC
        CCWTech @Obsolesce
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        @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

        Windows Admin C

        This is centrally managed?

        I am talking about completely different sites, different clients.

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          1337 @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

          UrBackup can be hosted in a cloud environment and has agents. Supports windows, Linux and osx.

          I think UrBackup dropped mac now. Too much trouble with the new filesystem and some other issues if I remember correctly.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @1337
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            @Pete-S said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

            @DustinB3403 said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

            UrBackup can be hosted in a cloud environment and has agents. Supports windows, Linux and osx.

            I think UrBackup dropped mac now. Too much trouble with the new filesystem and some other issues if I remember correctly.

            Ah well that sucks.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @CCWTech
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              @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

              @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

              Windows Admin C

              This is centrally managed?

              I am talking about completely different sites, different clients.

              I doubt that. I can't imagine wanting to do it that way ever outside of BaaS.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                  UrBackup can be hosted in a cloud environment and has agents. Supports windows, Linux and osx.

                  But that would backup to the hosting location. This is for local backups.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                    @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                    @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                    @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                    Windows Admin C

                    This is centrally managed?

                    I am talking about completely different sites, different clients.

                    I doubt that. I can't imagine wanting to do it that way ever outside of BaaS.

                    Nearly all companies want a local backup, even if they also have a remote one. I can't imagine ever wanting BaaS without also having this. I often prioritize offsite backups over local, but local is cheap and fast and it is really rare that you don't want to have it for the majority of your restores.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                      @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                      @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                      @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                      Windows Admin C

                      This is centrally managed?

                      I am talking about completely different sites, different clients.

                      I doubt that. I can't imagine wanting to do it that way ever outside of BaaS.

                      Nearly all companies want a local backup, even if they also have a remote one. I can't imagine ever wanting BaaS without also having this. I often prioritize offsite backups over local, but local is cheap and fast and it is really rare that you don't want to have it for the majority of your restores.

                      Except, that's not what it was about. It was about a single cross-client centrally managed backup solution. That's what my last comment was about, nothing regarding the points you made.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                        @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                        @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                        I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                        I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                        No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                        I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                        The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                        I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

                        If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                          @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                          @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                          @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                          I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                          I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                          No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                          I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                          The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                          I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

                          If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

                          The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                            @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                            @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                            @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                            @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                            I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                            I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                            No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                            I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                            The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                            I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

                            If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

                            The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

                            Heh, what do ya know. It is!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                              @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                              @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                              @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                              @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                              @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                              I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                              I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                              No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                              I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                              The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                              I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

                              If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

                              The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

                              Heh, what do ya know. It is!

                              WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver
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                                https://www.veeam.com/availability-console.html.
                                Seems like it would fit your needs.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                  UrBackup can be hosted in a cloud environment and has agents. Supports windows, Linux and osx.

                                  But that would backup to the hosting location. This is for local backups.

                                  This is true, but you could also mount the cloud storage or use something like rclone to copy those files to any number of cloud storage providers.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                    @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                    @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                    @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                    @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                    I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                                    I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                                    No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                                    I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                                    The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                                    I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

                                    If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

                                    The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

                                    Heh, what do ya know. It is!

                                    WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.

                                    If the servers could be configure to reach out so there would be no need to open ports... that would be cool.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                      @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                      @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                      @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                      @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                      I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                                      I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                                      No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                                      I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                                      The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                                      I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

                                      If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

                                      The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

                                      Heh, what do ya know. It is!

                                      WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.

                                      WAC does allow easy backup and replication to Azure.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                        @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                        @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                        @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                        @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                        I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                                        I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                                        No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                                        I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                                        The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                                        I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

                                        If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

                                        The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

                                        Heh, what do ya know. It is!

                                        WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.

                                        WAC does allow easy backup and replication to Azure.

                                        Everything backups up to the cloud or a hosting environment, it's the management from a central location that no one seems to have.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                          @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                          @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                          @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                          @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                          I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                                          I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                                          No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                                          I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                                          The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                                          I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

                                          If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

                                          The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

                                          Heh, what do ya know. It is!

                                          WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.

                                          If the servers could be configure to reach out so there would be no need to open ports... that would be cool.

                                          Yeah

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                                            JasGot @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                                            I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                                            No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                                            I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                                            The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                                            I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

                                            If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

                                            The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

                                            Heh, what do ya know. It is!

                                            WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.

                                            WAC does allow easy backup and replication to Azure.

                                            Everything backups up to the cloud or a hosting environment, it's the management from a central location that no one seems to have.

                                            BackupAssist does.

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