MSP Backup Product - Local Storage
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@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).
I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.
No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.
I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS
The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.
I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?
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@DustinB3403 said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
UrBackup can be hosted in a cloud environment and has agents. Supports windows, Linux and osx.
But that would backup to the hosting location. This is for local backups.
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@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
Windows Admin C
This is centrally managed?
I am talking about completely different sites, different clients.
I doubt that. I can't imagine wanting to do it that way ever outside of BaaS.
Nearly all companies want a local backup, even if they also have a remote one. I can't imagine ever wanting BaaS without also having this. I often prioritize offsite backups over local, but local is cheap and fast and it is really rare that you don't want to have it for the majority of your restores.
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
Windows Admin C
This is centrally managed?
I am talking about completely different sites, different clients.
I doubt that. I can't imagine wanting to do it that way ever outside of BaaS.
Nearly all companies want a local backup, even if they also have a remote one. I can't imagine ever wanting BaaS without also having this. I often prioritize offsite backups over local, but local is cheap and fast and it is really rare that you don't want to have it for the majority of your restores.
Except, that's not what it was about. It was about a single cross-client centrally managed backup solution. That's what my last comment was about, nothing regarding the points you made.
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).
I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.
No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.
I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS
The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.
I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?
If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.
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@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).
I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.
No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.
I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS
The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.
I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?
If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.
The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).
I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.
No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.
I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS
The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.
I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?
If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.
The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.
Heh, what do ya know. It is!
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@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).
I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.
No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.
I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS
The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.
I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?
If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.
The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.
Heh, what do ya know. It is!
WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.
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https://www.veeam.com/availability-console.html.
Seems like it would fit your needs. -
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@DustinB3403 said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
UrBackup can be hosted in a cloud environment and has agents. Supports windows, Linux and osx.
But that would backup to the hosting location. This is for local backups.
This is true, but you could also mount the cloud storage or use something like rclone to copy those files to any number of cloud storage providers.
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).
I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.
No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.
I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS
The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.
I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?
If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.
The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.
Heh, what do ya know. It is!
WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.
If the servers could be configure to reach out so there would be no need to open ports... that would be cool.
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).
I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.
No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.
I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS
The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.
I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?
If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.
The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.
Heh, what do ya know. It is!
WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.
WAC does allow easy backup and replication to Azure.
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@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).
I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.
No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.
I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS
The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.
I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?
If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.
The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.
Heh, what do ya know. It is!
WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.
WAC does allow easy backup and replication to Azure.
Everything backups up to the cloud or a hosting environment, it's the management from a central location that no one seems to have.
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@coliver said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).
I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.
No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.
I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS
The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.
I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?
If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.
The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.
Heh, what do ya know. It is!
WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.
If the servers could be configure to reach out so there would be no need to open ports... that would be cool.
Yeah
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).
I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.
No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.
I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS
The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.
I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?
If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.
The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.
Heh, what do ya know. It is!
WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.
WAC does allow easy backup and replication to Azure.
Everything backups up to the cloud or a hosting environment, it's the management from a central location that no one seems to have.
BackupAssist does.
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
If the servers could be configure to reach out so there would be no need to open ports... that would be cool.
Yeah
BackupAssist does it this way.
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@JasGot said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
If the servers could be configure to reach out so there would be no need to open ports... that would be cool.
Yeah
BackupAssist does it this way.
Definitely going to be testing that out.
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I just did a demo for Nakivo.
To have central management you must setup a VPN between the server you host the central management on and the clients where the backup software is installed.
I sent them an email about how many MSP's have been hacked and had all of their clients infected. Oddly enough they didn't respond.
Reaching out (again) to BackupAssist. trying to get a demo going.
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@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
To have central management you must setup a VPN between the server you host the central management on and the clients where the backup software is installed.
Fail
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
@CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:
To have central management you must setup a VPN between the server you host the central management on and the clients where the backup software is installed.
Fail
For sure! Run far away.
