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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee
      last edited by FATeknollogee

      Terminal tab: Copy & paste works for me - Windows 10 vm in Chrome & Firefox.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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        @FATeknollogee said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

        Terminal tab: Copy & paste works for me - Windows 10 vm in Chrome.

        The f?

        What version of chrome?

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
          last edited by FATeknollogee

          @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

          @FATeknollogee said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

          Terminal tab: Copy & paste works for me - Windows 10 vm in Chrome.

          The f?

          What version of chrome?

          v70.0.3538.110

          Firefox is v63.0.3

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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            @FATeknollogee said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

            @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

            @FATeknollogee said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

            Terminal tab: Copy & paste works for me - Windows 10 vm in Chrome.

            The f?

            What version of chrome?

            v70.0.3538.110

            Ok cool, I'll test this when I get home tonight and see if I have the same version of chrome. What version of Windows 10?

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
              last edited by FATeknollogee

              @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

              @FATeknollogee said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

              @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

              @FATeknollogee said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

              Terminal tab: Copy & paste works for me - Windows 10 vm in Chrome.

              The f?

              What version of chrome?

              v70.0.3538.110

              Ok cool, I'll test this when I get home tonight and see if I have the same version of chrome. What version of Windows 10?

              Win 10 Pro v1803 (OS Build 17134.407)

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                @travisdh1 essentially I don't want to have my hypervisor pulling across my network (even though this is my lab and the network isn't even close to being congested).

                In that case https://winscp.net/eng/index.php and just drag'n'drop.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @travisdh1
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                  @travisdh1 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                  @travisdh1 essentially I don't want to have my hypervisor pulling across my network (even though this is my lab and the network isn't even close to being congested).

                  In that case https://winscp.net/eng/index.php and just drag'n'drop.

                  Yeah. . . that would work too but it's still an added layer. I'm attempting to "do everything" from the tools that I have (can quickly install) on the host.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                    @travisdh1 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                    @travisdh1 essentially I don't want to have my hypervisor pulling across my network (even though this is my lab and the network isn't even close to being congested).

                    In that case https://winscp.net/eng/index.php and just drag'n'drop.

                    Yeah. . . that would work too but it's still an added layer. I'm attempting to "do everything" from the tools that I have (can quickly install) on the host.

                    But you're not managing it from the host - you're managing it from your endpoint device. I'd have PUTTY and WINSCP on there already anyway -

                    I totally understand why you want what you want - but this stated reason of on the host doesn't really apply in my mind.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                      @travisdh1 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                      @travisdh1 essentially I don't want to have my hypervisor pulling across my network (even though this is my lab and the network isn't even close to being congested).

                      In that case https://winscp.net/eng/index.php and just drag'n'drop.

                      Yeah. . . that would work too but it's still an added layer. I'm attempting to "do everything" from the tools that I have (can quickly install) on the host.

                      But you're not managing it from the host - you're managing it from your endpoint device. I'd have PUTTY and WINSCP on there already anyway -

                      I totally understand why you want what you want - but this stated reason of on the host doesn't really apply in my mind.

                      It would if you had nothing but a chromebook and wanted to do everything from your web browser. I'm using Virtual Machines within Cockpit to create and manage the Guests.

                      Nothing besides running the web browser is being performed from my workstation.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                        @travisdh1 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                        @travisdh1 essentially I don't want to have my hypervisor pulling across my network (even though this is my lab and the network isn't even close to being congested).

                        In that case https://winscp.net/eng/index.php and just drag'n'drop.

                        Yeah. . . that would work too but it's still an added layer. I'm attempting to "do everything" from the tools that I have (can quickly install) on the host.

                        FFS

                        You have to have a way to get things to the host in the first place.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                          last edited by DustinB3403

                          @travisdh1 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                          @travisdh1 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                          @travisdh1 essentially I don't want to have my hypervisor pulling across my network (even though this is my lab and the network isn't even close to being congested).

                          In that case https://winscp.net/eng/index.php and just drag'n'drop.

                          Yeah. . . that would work too but it's still an added layer. I'm attempting to "do everything" from the tools that I have (can quickly install) on the host.

                          FFS

                          You have to have a way to get things to the host in the first place.

                          Which I can do all of this from the Terminal. How is that weird? I can install wget from the terminal and then perform wget https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/29/Server/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Server-dvd-x86_64-29-1.2.iso

                          But I don't want to have to type in that long ass URL. Does this make it easier to see where the problem of "hrm copy and paste doesn't work" came from?

                          Never do I need to connect using third party solutions, which is what I'm attempting to do with this lab. (not use third party tools).

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
                            last edited by Dashrender

                            @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                            @Dashrender said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                            @travisdh1 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                            @travisdh1 essentially I don't want to have my hypervisor pulling across my network (even though this is my lab and the network isn't even close to being congested).

                            In that case https://winscp.net/eng/index.php and just drag'n'drop.

                            Yeah. . . that would work too but it's still an added layer. I'm attempting to "do everything" from the tools that I have (can quickly install) on the host.

                            But you're not managing it from the host - you're managing it from your endpoint device. I'd have PUTTY and WINSCP on there already anyway -

                            I totally understand why you want what you want - but this stated reason of on the host doesn't really apply in my mind.

                            It would if you had nothing but a chromebook and wanted to do everything from your web browser. I'm using Virtual Machines within Cockpit to create and manage the Guests.

                            Nothing besides running the web browser is being performed from my workstation.

                            Now you're talking about Chromebooks... which run some type of Linux if I'm not mistaken - and well - just might already work for copy/paste.

                            But that said - don't Chromebooks have a terminal session app available? I don't see this being a real issue.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                              @Dashrender said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                              @travisdh1 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                              @travisdh1 essentially I don't want to have my hypervisor pulling across my network (even though this is my lab and the network isn't even close to being congested).

                              In that case https://winscp.net/eng/index.php and just drag'n'drop.

                              Yeah. . . that would work too but it's still an added layer. I'm attempting to "do everything" from the tools that I have (can quickly install) on the host.

                              But you're not managing it from the host - you're managing it from your endpoint device. I'd have PUTTY and WINSCP on there already anyway -

                              I totally understand why you want what you want - but this stated reason of on the host doesn't really apply in my mind.

                              It would if you had nothing but a chromebook and wanted to do everything from your web browser. I'm using Virtual Machines within Cockpit to create and manage the Guests.

                              Nothing besides running the web browser is being performed from my workstation.

                              Now you're talking about Chromebooks... which run some type of Linux if I'm not mistaken - and well - just might already work for copy/paste.

                              But that said - don't Chromebooks have a terminal session app available? I don't see this being a real issue.

                              Chromebook, cell phone, iphone, apple OSx device.

                              The point is a web browser.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                @Dashrender said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                @Dashrender said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                @travisdh1 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                @travisdh1 essentially I don't want to have my hypervisor pulling across my network (even though this is my lab and the network isn't even close to being congested).

                                In that case https://winscp.net/eng/index.php and just drag'n'drop.

                                Yeah. . . that would work too but it's still an added layer. I'm attempting to "do everything" from the tools that I have (can quickly install) on the host.

                                But you're not managing it from the host - you're managing it from your endpoint device. I'd have PUTTY and WINSCP on there already anyway -

                                I totally understand why you want what you want - but this stated reason of on the host doesn't really apply in my mind.

                                It would if you had nothing but a chromebook and wanted to do everything from your web browser. I'm using Virtual Machines within Cockpit to create and manage the Guests.

                                Nothing besides running the web browser is being performed from my workstation.

                                Now you're talking about Chromebooks... which run some type of Linux if I'm not mistaken - and well - just might already work for copy/paste.

                                But that said - don't Chromebooks have a terminal session app available? I don't see this being a real issue.

                                Chromebook, cell phone, iphone, apple OSx device.

                                The point is a web browser.

                                sorta - your point is that you want to do everything from the single session - through CockPit. because all of those things you liked have a terminal session app - and I'm betting they likely all have a SCP app as well.

                                Again - I get what your desire is - I just don't think it's worthwhile personally. I want those other apps for other things besides just this one server controlled by CockPit, so since I already have them.. I'm not going to frett to much over copy paste not working in CockPit on Windows.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                  sorta - your point is that you want to do everything from the single session - through CockPit.

                                  This is all I want, yes and for it to be functional. Yes.

                                  Thank baby Jesus now can we continue with this conversation? 🙂

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender In talking a little more with @DustinB3403, I think it's more an issue with Windows being dumb. No reason that text should not populate from the clipboard to that window.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                      @travisdh1 essentially I don't want to have my hypervisor pulling across my network (even though this is my lab and the network isn't even close to being congested).

                                      In that case https://winscp.net/eng/index.php and just drag'n'drop.

                                      Yeah. . . that would work too but it's still an added layer. I'm attempting to "do everything" from the tools that I have (can quickly install) on the host.

                                      But you're not managing it from the host - you're managing it from your endpoint device. I'd have PUTTY and WINSCP on there already anyway -

                                      I totally understand why you want what you want - but this stated reason of on the host doesn't really apply in my mind.

                                      The fact that this should work is the browser aside...

                                      Even Windows 10 has ssh available now. Just use as native ssh to connect to the host in a powershell session. The you can copy paste all you want.

                                      Why are you making this harder?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                        @Dashrender said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                        @travisdh1 essentially I don't want to have my hypervisor pulling across my network (even though this is my lab and the network isn't even close to being congested).

                                        In that case https://winscp.net/eng/index.php and just drag'n'drop.

                                        Yeah. . . that would work too but it's still an added layer. I'm attempting to "do everything" from the tools that I have (can quickly install) on the host.

                                        But you're not managing it from the host - you're managing it from your endpoint device. I'd have PUTTY and WINSCP on there already anyway -

                                        I totally understand why you want what you want - but this stated reason of on the host doesn't really apply in my mind.

                                        The fact that this should work is the browser aside...

                                        Even Windows 10 has ssh available now. Just use as native ssh to connect to the host in a powershell session. The you can copy paste all you want.

                                        Why are you making this harder?

                                        I can't imagine how this is "difficult" to understand.

                                        I want to use Cockpit exclusively and the tools that can be installed into the Fedora installation to manage this part of my lab.

                                        If I want to connect to the cockpit interface from my cellphone FFS I want/hope that the solution works without issue.

                                        Now that it has been determined to likely be a "Windows issue" I'm happy to look at alternative approaches.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          One of the goals of the lab being, testing the hell out of Fedora Cockpit and KVM from multiple OS's and seeing how it all works and behaves.

                                          Not the "use <insert alternative>" to achieve X" when I want to use "<built-in tools>".

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by JaredBusch

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Fedora CockPit (with KVM) Copy and Paste:

                                            One of the goals of the lab being, testing the hell out of Fedora Cockpit and KVM from multiple OS's and seeing how it all works and behaves.

                                            Not the "use <insert alternative>" to achieve X" when I want to use "<built-in tools>".

                                            I don't access any hypervisor in this way. You are locked on a stupid silly little thing.

                                            For Hyper-V, once installed, I install ScreenConnect and then use that interface for everything. To put the initial ISO files on there, I download them from my workstation and then copy them to C:\ISO_Files via \\uncname\c$\ISO_Files

                                            For KVM, as soon as it is setup and online, I never log in to the local console via any means. Cockpit or otherwise. I use ssh from my workstation.

                                            While cockpit is a cool GUI, it is just that. A GUI. It will never be able to do everything that you need to do. Just like any other GUI.

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