Windows 10 Performance tweaks
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@manxam said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
@pmoncho : I have to ask: why? I understand if you're using Windows 8.1 or the first couple versions of Windows 10 with the weird start menu but with current revisions the start menu differs very little from Windows 7. Turn off the groups on the right hand side and it's just a more modern skin to the old...
Not the greatest answer but, its because my users know what "Start" means and when they are told to "Start and Log Off" they know exactly what I mean and where to move the mouse and which button to press.
Most of my users don't understand what "Right Click" mean. Yeah, its that bad! UGH
Its funny how users can manipulate their home pc's, create and send emails, scan, move, manipulate, attach files to emails and move all around. Then when they get to work, it all goes out the window and "I don't know how to do that!" Double UGH!
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@pmoncho said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
@manxam said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
@pmoncho : I have to ask: why? I understand if you're using Windows 8.1 or the first couple versions of Windows 10 with the weird start menu but with current revisions the start menu differs very little from Windows 7. Turn off the groups on the right hand side and it's just a more modern skin to the old...
Not the greatest answer but, its because my users know what "Start" means and when they are told to "Start and Log Off" they know exactly what I mean and where to move the mouse and which button to press.
Most of my users don't understand what "Right Click" mean. Yeah, its that bad! UGH
Its funny how users can manipulate their home pc's, create and send emails, scan, move, manipulate, attach files to emails and move all around. Then when they get to work, it all goes out the window and "I don't know how to do that!" Double UGH!
If their job is using a computer, they need to learn to use the computer. End of discussion.
You don't hire engine mechanics and just deal with them never learning how to open the hood for the lifetime of their employment. You expect them to learn how to open it, or turn on a car, even if the car changes.
Your users must learn computer basics if their job depends on them.
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I don't understand how people get hired in the fist place, for a computer job, if they can't understand how to use a computer.
They can learn, I mean, they learned to do what it is they do... they should keep up with the tool used to do the work.
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@Obsolesce said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
I don't understand how people get hired in the fist place, for a computer job, if they can't understand how to use a computer.
They can learn, I mean, they learned to do their computer work... keep up with the tool used to do the work.
Agreed. Long gone are the days when "hee hee, I'm not good with computers" was a viable excuse. Most of the folks legitimately old enough to say that are retired now. Everybody else, get with the program.
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@RojoLoco said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
I don't understand how people get hired in the fist place, for a computer job, if they can't understand how to use a computer.
They can learn, I mean, they learned to do their computer work... keep up with the tool used to do the work.
Agreed. Long gone are the days when "hee hee, I'm not good with computers" was a viable excuse. Most of the folks legitimately old enough to say that are retired now. Everybody else, get with the program.
Most would be dead now. Computers in the office were standard forty years ago. If you were forty when you first got computers at work, not understanding them isn't a viable excuse. For a white collar worker there is really no age where there is a viable excuse for not having kept up for four decades.
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@RojoLoco said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
Agreed. Long gone are the days when "hee hee, I'm not good with computers" was a viable excuse. Most of the folks legitimately old enough to say that are retired now. Everybody else, get with the program.
Funny that you should say that. I recently on-boarded a new receptionist for a client who appears to be in her late-30s to early-40s. She just kept going on-and-on about how she "wasn't good with computers" and I still hear that a lot with people within my approximate age group (40ish).
I really fail to understand how these people get hired as these are the same individuals that cost the most in IT related charges. e.g. things that can easily be remedied by rebooting their computer, putting paper in a printer, or replacing the batteries in their wireless keyboard.
EDIT: <rant>I should state that I was there this past week and using this particular computer about 2 weeks after her on-boarding. I couldn't log into Windows and then noticed that the username was missing a character and the password kept appearing shorter than it should be. After finally logging in, I opened notepad and typed some words noting that 1/3 of the characters were dropped. The keyboard batteries were dying.
When I asked her about it she replied with "I don't use the keyboard that much and, when I do, it works just fine".
I watched her for a little while after I was finished and noticed that she typed at about 25 wpm giving the keyboard ample time to catch up. My typing at 90 wpm (which is roughly what a receptionist should type at I would think?) would give it fits. Don't even get me started about the "...don't use the keyboard" comment. What do you DO all day?!</rant> -
@pmoncho said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
Not the greatest answer but, its because my users know what "Start" means and when they are told to "Start and Log Off" they know exactly what I mean and where to move the mouse and which button to press.
Most of my users don't understand what "Right Click" mean. Yeah, its that bad! UGH
Its funny how users can manipulate their home pc's, create and send emails, scan, move, manipulate, attach files to emails and move all around. Then when they get to work, it all goes out the window and "I don't know how to do that!" Double UGH!
I understand. There are still so many users that completely "shut down" when faced with change. They don't even ATTEMPT to figure it out, they just mentally switch off. I understand that in my 75 year old mother, but don't understand how that's acceptable in a business setting in this day-and-age.
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@Obsolesce said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
I don't understand how people get hired in the fist place, for a computer job, if they can't understand how to use a computer.
They can learn, I mean, they learned to do what it is they do... they should keep up with the tool used to do the work.
Trust me. You guys are preaching to the choir here. I even make slight comments, while laughing "with" them, after they make such statements, "so basically we should hire a carpenter who doesn't know how to use a hammer?"
To give my users a minuscule amount of credit, they are basically in a single application for 95% of their job and they learn that software inside and out.
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@pmoncho said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
I don't understand how people get hired in the fist place, for a computer job, if they can't understand how to use a computer.
They can learn, I mean, they learned to do what it is they do... they should keep up with the tool used to do the work.
Trust me. You guys are preaching to the choir here. I even make slight comments, while laughing "with" them, after they make such statements, "so basically we should hire a carpenter who doesn't know how to use a hammer?"
To give my users a minuscule amount of credit, they are basically in a single application for 95% of their job and they learn that software inside and out.
So they can't be bothered to learn left click from right click??? Sounds like a bunch of morons who should have flunked kindergarten. I had that user base many times in the past, and I managed to get out without murdering anyone. Run away screaming and find greener pastures. Life is too fucking short to make excuses for fucktards. You deserve better users. Go find them elsewhere.
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@Obsolesce said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
I don't understand how people get hired in the fist place, for a computer job, if they can't understand how to use a computer.
They can learn, I mean, they learned to do what it is they do... they should keep up with the tool used to do the work.
What I don't get even more so is the fact that people have the option of what to use, Apple or Windows, and they choose the tool that they've never used and expect to be trained on every little thing.
YOU PICKED THIS TOOL, YOU SHOULD KNOW HOW TO USE IT
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Users that are computer literate.
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@RojoLoco said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
@pmoncho said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
I don't understand how people get hired in the fist place, for a computer job, if they can't understand how to use a computer.
They can learn, I mean, they learned to do what it is they do... they should keep up with the tool used to do the work.
Trust me. You guys are preaching to the choir here. I even make slight comments, while laughing "with" them, after they make such statements, "so basically we should hire a carpenter who doesn't know how to use a hammer?"
To give my users a minuscule amount of credit, they are basically in a single application for 95% of their job and they learn that software inside and out.
So they can't be bothered to learn left click from right click??? Sounds like a bunch of morons who should have flunked kindergarten. I had that user base many times in the past, and I managed to get out without murdering anyone. Run away screaming and find greener pastures. Life is too fucking short to make excuses for fucktards. You deserve better users. Go find them elsewhere.
I would love nothing more but I live with the hand I'm dealt, give them the tools they need to get their work done and then try to avoid them.
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My company started using email in 2011. They've had computers since the mid 80's (at least in engineering), but none of them had internet access until around then too.
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4 years ago, I pulled out 10mb switches, or they may have been hubs, not sure.
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I disagree with you guys. Win10 just contains a great deal of complexity just to start whatever application you want - where the real work gets done. I can't see that the OS has become better from a user point of view compared to win7, XP, 2000, 95 or 3.0. It's not the users fault.
Microsoft put too much crap in the OS that should not be there and not enough of what should have been there. But Microsoft stocks are good so I like them anyway
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For tweaking there is as always a bunch of services that you can set to "disable". Question is if it's worth the effort. If you run an enterprise like environment where you control all software and have many stations it might be.
SSD is a must but that has been the case for the last 10 years.
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While I appreciate all the shitting on users, they deserve it, it’s totally derailed the purpose of this thread.
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@Pete-S said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
I disagree with you guys. Win10 just contains a great deal of complexity just to start whatever application you want - where the real work gets done. I can't see that the OS has become better from a user point of view compared to win7, XP, 2000, 95 or 3.0. It's not the users fault.
Microsoft put too much crap in the OS that should not be there and not enough of what should have been there. But Microsoft stocks are good so I like them anyway
You're crazy. They still use a desktop shortcut or start menu shortcut, same since XP. Big ass squares on the right side of the start menu in Win10 vs small links on the left in Win7. 10 is way easier, or even on the task bar, same as its been since XP.
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@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Performance tweaks:
While I appreciate all the shitting on users, they deserve it, it’s totally derailed the purpose of this thread.
My fault. Sorry
Honestly though, Windows 10 runs pretty well out of the box with 8gb ram and an SSD.
I do, however, run a "Windows 10 cleanup" script after first boot to get rid of all the tiles for games and fluff applications and to limit telemetry but, otherwise, leave it well enough alone.This is a neat little tool though if you want to get into the fine-grained stuff.
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Spybot has a tool just for blocking telemetry stuff called Anti Beacon. I just set it it "full" and leave it be. Portable version available too.
https://download.spybot.info/AntiBeacon/SpybotAntiBeacon-3.1-setup.exe
