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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

      @dbeato said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

      I use CloneZilla for imaging when possible, but to do any type of imaging with Sysprep on OEM devices you will need at least one VL license to do imaging.

      No one is questioning the licensing. this has nothing to do with the question of how to do it.

      Don't confuse things.

      It's a valid and relevant point. The whole point of this "discussion" is to discuss all aspects relating to this... and licensing is definitely related to Win10 and imaging.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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        @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

        @jaredbusch said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

        @dbeato said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

        I use CloneZilla for imaging when possible, but to do any type of imaging with Sysprep on OEM devices you will need at least one VL license to do imaging.

        No one is questioning the licensing. this has nothing to do with the question of how to do it.

        Don't confuse things.

        It's a valid and relevant point. The whole point of this "discussion" is to discuss all aspects relating to this... and licensing is definitely related to Win10 Microsoft and imaging.

        FTFY

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Obsolesce
          last edited by

          @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

          @jaredbusch said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

          @dbeato said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

          I use CloneZilla for imaging when possible, but to do any type of imaging with Sysprep on OEM devices you will need at least one VL license to do imaging.

          No one is questioning the licensing. this has nothing to do with the question of how to do it.

          Don't confuse things.

          It's a valid and relevant point. The whole point of this "discussion" is to discuss all aspects relating to this... and licensing is definitely related to Win10 and imaging.

          No, and I just quoted the first post a bit ago.. It is specifically about the tools.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @jaredbusch said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

            @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

            @jaredbusch said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

            @dbeato said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

            I use CloneZilla for imaging when possible, but to do any type of imaging with Sysprep on OEM devices you will need at least one VL license to do imaging.

            No one is questioning the licensing. this has nothing to do with the question of how to do it.

            Don't confuse things.

            It's a valid and relevant point. The whole point of this "discussion" is to discuss all aspects relating to this... and licensing is definitely related to Win10 and imaging.

            No, and I just quoted the first post a bit ago.. It is specifically about the tools.

            This is an IT discussion community forum...

            Straight up Q&A (like what you are looking for here) is StackExchange/Overflow, no room there for anything other than a direct Question and direct Answer.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              Anyways. . .

              I already stated that licensing needs to be considered, and as for the tool to use, fogproject.org is the one. It's hands down the best imaging solution I've used and it just works, at scale.

              Simple and quick and easy to maintain.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                @dustinb3403 said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                Anyways. . .

                I already stated that licensing needs to be considered, and as for the tool to use, fogproject.org is the one. It's hands down the best imaging solution I've used and it just works, at scale.

                Simple and quick and easy to maintain.

                Does that require a server?

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                  last edited by

                  @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                  @jaredbusch said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                  @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                  @jaredbusch said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                  @dbeato said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                  I use CloneZilla for imaging when possible, but to do any type of imaging with Sysprep on OEM devices you will need at least one VL license to do imaging.

                  No one is questioning the licensing. this has nothing to do with the question of how to do it.

                  Don't confuse things.

                  It's a valid and relevant point. The whole point of this "discussion" is to discuss all aspects relating to this... and licensing is definitely related to Win10 and imaging.

                  No, and I just quoted the first post a bit ago.. It is specifically about the tools.

                  This is an IT discussion community forum...

                  Straight up Q&A (like what you are looking for here) is StackExchange/Overflow, no room there for anything other than a direct Question and direct Answer.

                  Discussion of the question asked. yes. Not discussion of non-relevant points.
                  There are lots of options for tools for this.
                  But you all hung the fuck up on licensing and have mentioned no tools other than @DustinB3403 mentioning FOG and myself mentioning CloneZilla.

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                  • black3dynamiteB
                    black3dynamite @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                    @dustinb3403 said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                    Anyways. . .

                    I already stated that licensing needs to be considered, and as for the tool to use, fogproject.org is the one. It's hands down the best imaging solution I've used and it just works, at scale.

                    Simple and quick and easy to maintain.

                    Does that require a server?

                    You can use a laptop, desktop or a server.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                      @dustinb3403 said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                      Anyways. . .

                      I already stated that licensing needs to be considered, and as for the tool to use, fogproject.org is the one. It's hands down the best imaging solution I've used and it just works, at scale.

                      Simple and quick and easy to maintain.

                      Does that require a server?

                      Of course. . .

                      See my above screenshot. They require a Linux server, and recommend it being virtual.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @black3dynamite
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                        @black3dynamite said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                        @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                        @dustinb3403 said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                        Anyways. . .

                        I already stated that licensing needs to be considered, and as for the tool to use, fogproject.org is the one. It's hands down the best imaging solution I've used and it just works, at scale.

                        Simple and quick and easy to maintain.

                        Does that require a server?

                        You can use a laptop, desktop or a server.

                        That isn't how I took it, but you could use any device, but a server setup has to be present to serve the images.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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                          @jaredbusch said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                          But you all hung the fuck up on licensing and have mentioned no tools other than @DustinB3403 mentioning FOG and myself mentioning CloneZilla.

                          @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                          MDT
                          https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/deploy-windows-mdt/deploy-a-windows-10-image-using-mdt

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                            @jaredbusch said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                            But you all hung the fuck up on licensing and have mentioned no tools other than @DustinB3403 mentioning FOG and myself mentioning CloneZilla.

                            @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                            MDT
                            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/deploy-windows-mdt/deploy-a-windows-10-image-using-mdt

                            Have you ever actually tried using MDT?

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @DustinB3403
                              last edited by Obsolesce

                              @dustinb3403 said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                              @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                              @jaredbusch said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                              But you all hung the fuck up on licensing and have mentioned no tools other than @DustinB3403 mentioning FOG and myself mentioning CloneZilla.

                              @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                              MDT
                              https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/deploy-windows-mdt/deploy-a-windows-10-image-using-mdt

                              Have you ever actually tried using MDT?

                              Yes, I like it more than FOG (though, I haven't used FOG yet) because I'm under the impression FOG is clone-based imaging only.

                              I'd use FOG over MDT if all the devices were the same and get the same software. But I could be wrong about FOG.

                              MDT is highly flexible and my impression of FOG is that it's not.

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                              • hobbit666H
                                hobbit666
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                                I've used two that have been mentioned
                                The Fog method.
                                Created a machine, updated, drivers, them sysprep. Imaged that to the FOG server then booted via network boot and deployed the image to the client.

                                Also CloneZilla.
                                Again build a PC/VM update, drivers, Sysprep then store the image on USB/Network and deploy that to the new machine.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                  @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                  @jaredbusch said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                  But you all hung the fuck up on licensing and have mentioned no tools other than @DustinB3403 mentioning FOG and myself mentioning CloneZilla.

                                  @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                  MDT
                                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/deploy-windows-mdt/deploy-a-windows-10-image-using-mdt

                                  Have you ever actually tried using MDT?

                                  Yes, I like it more than FOG (though, I haven't used FOG yet) because I'm under the impression FOG is clone-based imaging only.

                                  I'd use FOG over MDT if all the devices were the same or very few. But I could be wrong about FOG.

                                  MDT is highly flexible and my impression of FOG is that it's not.

                                  So Fog is Imaged based (what is being discussed) but with very little changes to your golden image, can you make it a more agnostic image.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                    Yes, I like it more than FOG (though, I haven't used FOG yet) because I'm under the impression FOG is clone-based imaging only.

                                    How can you say you like it more if you've never tried it?

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @dustinb3403 said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                      @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                      Yes, I like it more than FOG (though, I haven't used FOG yet) because I'm under the impression FOG is clone-based imaging only.

                                      How can you say you like it more if you've never tried it?

                                      Are you saying I should I like something that I haven't used yet more?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        I had an agnostic golden Windows 10 image setup with just a folder full of drivers for 4 different system models. To have the system go and check that directory for drivers you simply have to add a system directory and upon first start up the computer will install the drivers required.

                                        Was super simple, nothing difficult in any way and made my life so much easier than having to go and find drivers after the fact.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                          @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                          Yes, I like it more than FOG (though, I haven't used FOG yet) because I'm under the impression FOG is clone-based imaging only.

                                          How can you say you like it more if you've never tried it?

                                          Are you saying I should I like something that I haven't used yet more?

                                          I'm saying, you shouldn't dislike something you haven't used because of a perception you have.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                            @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                            @obsolesce said in Options for Windows Desktop Deployments without Windows Server:

                                            Yes, I like it more than FOG (though, I haven't used FOG yet) because I'm under the impression FOG is clone-based imaging only.

                                            How can you say you like it more if you've never tried it?

                                            Are you saying I should I like something that I haven't used yet more?

                                            I'm saying, you shouldn't dislike something you haven't used because of a perception you have.

                                            I don't dislike it. I was being clear on my reasoning, that I haven't used it yet, but I have read about it. I haven't used it because of what I've read about it.

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