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@travisdh1 said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
Once upon a time I wrote an article that was linked a lot called something like "If you don't challenge me, you don't respect me", but man I can't find it anywhere. I probably have the title all wrong.
Shoot, I don't have it in my saved reference links, it should've been kept there!
Have you seen it? Can you remember the name at all?
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@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@travisdh1 said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
Once upon a time I wrote an article that was linked a lot called something like "If you don't challenge me, you don't respect me", but man I can't find it anywhere. I probably have the title all wrong.
Shoot, I don't have it in my saved reference links, it should've been kept there!
Have you seen it? Can you remember the name at all?
I remember you posting on it, but I can't remember the actual title myself, arg.
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@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
Once upon a time I wrote an article that was linked a lot called something like "If you don't challenge me, you don't respect me", but man I can't find it anywhere. I probably have the title all wrong.
I read it when you posted it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@irj said in Copying Content from other sources:
This isn't right... This is the opposite of how intelligent people think. As professionals we should want to be challenged. Scientists, engineers, IT, etc all do better with challenges. If I am wrong about something point it out!
We are generally talking about making decisions with hundred of thousands or millions of dollars daily. Who the hell wouldnt want to be called out if they are doing something wrong?
So sick of this snowflake mentality where everyone's feelings matter. Fuck your feelings. There is wrong and there is right...
There is an issue of a lack of listening and there is an issue that we can't challenge someone's ideas. I have my beliefs/positions, you want to have a polite discussion I will have it with you. I will listen to you and I want you to challenge the hell out of me and you know what, you might change my mind. If someone challenges you and you are forced to logically defend your positions it will make you flush them out more. I also have the right to challenge your positions. You challenge what some people believe they don't want to defend it. They immediately smear you or say you have offended them. There is a lack of thinking in today's society. They just take what someone says and run with it without investigating it for themselves.
I think this is always how people have been, hardly a new thing. We just see it differently now that so many things that used to be private discussions are now public, and recorded.
Some element of it might have always been there but it is worse now. I believe there was a time where it was better. When I went to college for my history degree (first degree) I remember the various religious groups coming together with the freethinkers (mostly atheists) having lively debates. Then we would all go out and do fun stuff together, frisbee football, scavenger hunts, etc. Also, the College Democrats and the College Republicans would get together have debates and then do things together. They would also pick a charity together and we all would work together to raise money for the charity. I would say that is not the norm anymore.
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@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@irj said in Copying Content from other sources:
This isn't right... This is the opposite of how intelligent people think. As professionals we should want to be challenged. Scientists, engineers, IT, etc all do better with challenges. If I am wrong about something point it out!
We are generally talking about making decisions with hundred of thousands or millions of dollars daily. Who the hell wouldnt want to be called out if they are doing something wrong?
So sick of this snowflake mentality where everyone's feelings matter. Fuck your feelings. There is wrong and there is right...
There is an issue of a lack of listening and there is an issue that we can't challenge someone's ideas. I have my beliefs/positions, you want to have a polite discussion I will have it with you. I will listen to you and I want you to challenge the hell out of me and you know what, you might change my mind. If someone challenges you and you are forced to logically defend your positions it will make you flush them out more. I also have the right to challenge your positions. You challenge what some people believe they don't want to defend it. They immediately smear you or say you have offended them. There is a lack of thinking in today's society. They just take what someone says and run with it without investigating it for themselves.
I think this is always how people have been, hardly a new thing. We just see it differently now that so many things that used to be private discussions are now public, and recorded.
Some element of it might have always been there but it is worse now. I believe there was a time where it was better. When I went to college for my history degree (first degree) I remember the various religious groups coming together with the freethinkers (mostly atheists) having lively debates. Then we would all go out and do fun stuff together, frisbee football, scavenger hunts, etc. Also, the College Democrats and the College Republicans would get together have debates and then do things together. They would also pick a charity together and we all would work together to raise money for the charity. I would say that is not the norm anymore.
You are correct, this is no longer the norm. How do I know? The existence of "safe spaces" on college campuses tells me all I need to know about how the "special snowflake" mentality has run rampant in our society.
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@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@irj said in Copying Content from other sources:
This isn't right... This is the opposite of how intelligent people think. As professionals we should want to be challenged. Scientists, engineers, IT, etc all do better with challenges. If I am wrong about something point it out!
We are generally talking about making decisions with hundred of thousands or millions of dollars daily. Who the hell wouldnt want to be called out if they are doing something wrong?
So sick of this snowflake mentality where everyone's feelings matter. Fuck your feelings. There is wrong and there is right...
There is an issue of a lack of listening and there is an issue that we can't challenge someone's ideas. I have my beliefs/positions, you want to have a polite discussion I will have it with you. I will listen to you and I want you to challenge the hell out of me and you know what, you might change my mind. If someone challenges you and you are forced to logically defend your positions it will make you flush them out more. I also have the right to challenge your positions. You challenge what some people believe they don't want to defend it. They immediately smear you or say you have offended them. There is a lack of thinking in today's society. They just take what someone says and run with it without investigating it for themselves.
I think this is always how people have been, hardly a new thing. We just see it differently now that so many things that used to be private discussions are now public, and recorded.
Some element of it might have always been there but it is worse now. I believe there was a time where it was better. When I went to college for my history degree (first degree) I remember the various religious groups coming together with the freethinkers (mostly atheists) having lively debates. Then we would all go out and do fun stuff together, frisbee football, scavenger hunts, etc. Also, the College Democrats and the College Republicans would get together have debates and then do things together. They would also pick a charity together and we all would work together to raise money for the charity. I would say that is not the norm anymore.
Now it is my party/politician is always right and yours is always wrong. If you are in the other party you are in idiot, and if you are in mine you are so smart.
In fact everything they say is 100% wrong and everything we do is 100% right.
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@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
Once upon a time I wrote an article that was linked a lot called something like "If you don't challenge me, you don't respect me", but man I can't find it anywhere. I probably have the title all wrong.
I read it when you posted it.
So we know it exists...
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@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@irj said in Copying Content from other sources:
This isn't right... This is the opposite of how intelligent people think. As professionals we should want to be challenged. Scientists, engineers, IT, etc all do better with challenges. If I am wrong about something point it out!
We are generally talking about making decisions with hundred of thousands or millions of dollars daily. Who the hell wouldnt want to be called out if they are doing something wrong?
So sick of this snowflake mentality where everyone's feelings matter. Fuck your feelings. There is wrong and there is right...
There is an issue of a lack of listening and there is an issue that we can't challenge someone's ideas. I have my beliefs/positions, you want to have a polite discussion I will have it with you. I will listen to you and I want you to challenge the hell out of me and you know what, you might change my mind. If someone challenges you and you are forced to logically defend your positions it will make you flush them out more. I also have the right to challenge your positions. You challenge what some people believe they don't want to defend it. They immediately smear you or say you have offended them. There is a lack of thinking in today's society. They just take what someone says and run with it without investigating it for themselves.
I think this is always how people have been, hardly a new thing. We just see it differently now that so many things that used to be private discussions are now public, and recorded.
Some element of it might have always been there but it is worse now. I believe there was a time where it was better. When I went to college for my history degree (first degree) I remember the various religious groups coming together with the freethinkers (mostly atheists) having lively debates. Then we would all go out and do fun stuff together, frisbee football, scavenger hunts, etc. Also, the College Democrats and the College Republicans would get together have debates and then do things together. They would also pick a charity together and we all would work together to raise money for the charity. I would say that is not the norm anymore.
Yes, but prior to that.... Protestant Reformation, for example.
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@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
Once upon a time I wrote an article that was linked a lot called something like "If you don't challenge me, you don't respect me", but man I can't find it anywhere. I probably have the title all wrong.
I read it when you posted it.
So we know it exists...
It was posted on [a shite that won't be named] about how hand holding people rather than asking and receiving proper advice as a "community for professionals" or a "community for cuddling witheach other".
I forget the title as well, but it was worth reading. At this point though you'd have to delete the topic if you even found it to post it here.
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@dustinb3403 said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
Once upon a time I wrote an article that was linked a lot called something like "If you don't challenge me, you don't respect me", but man I can't find it anywhere. I probably have the title all wrong.
I read it when you posted it.
So we know it exists...
It was posted on [a shite that won't be named] about how hand holding people rather than asking and received proper advice.
I forget the title as well, but it was worth reading. At this point though you'd have to delete the topic if you even found it to post it here.
@dustinb3403 said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
Once upon a time I wrote an article that was linked a lot called something like "If you don't challenge me, you don't respect me", but man I can't find it anywhere. I probably have the title all wrong.
I read it when you posted it.
So we know it exists...
It was posted on [a shite that won't be named] about how hand holding people rather than asking and received proper advice.
I forget the title as well, but it was worth reading. At this point though you'd have to delete the topic if you even found it to post it here.
I would recommend a re-write and posting it here.
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My only response: Wow.
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@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@irj said in Copying Content from other sources:
This isn't right... This is the opposite of how intelligent people think. As professionals we should want to be challenged. Scientists, engineers, IT, etc all do better with challenges. If I am wrong about something point it out!
We are generally talking about making decisions with hundred of thousands or millions of dollars daily. Who the hell wouldnt want to be called out if they are doing something wrong?
So sick of this snowflake mentality where everyone's feelings matter. Fuck your feelings. There is wrong and there is right...
There is an issue of a lack of listening and there is an issue that we can't challenge someone's ideas. I have my beliefs/positions, you want to have a polite discussion I will have it with you. I will listen to you and I want you to challenge the hell out of me and you know what, you might change my mind. If someone challenges you and you are forced to logically defend your positions it will make you flush them out more. I also have the right to challenge your positions. You challenge what some people believe they don't want to defend it. They immediately smear you or say you have offended them. There is a lack of thinking in today's society. They just take what someone says and run with it without investigating it for themselves.
I think this is always how people have been, hardly a new thing. We just see it differently now that so many things that used to be private discussions are now public, and recorded.
Some element of it might have always been there but it is worse now. I believe there was a time where it was better. When I went to college for my history degree (first degree) I remember the various religious groups coming together with the freethinkers (mostly atheists) having lively debates. Then we would all go out and do fun stuff together, frisbee football, scavenger hunts, etc. Also, the College Democrats and the College Republicans would get together have debates and then do things together. They would also pick a charity together and we all would work together to raise money for the charity. I would say that is not the norm anymore.
Yes, but prior to that.... Protestant Reformation, for example.
So probably best to say it ebbs and flows.
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@alanrafael10 said in [Copying Content from other sources]
That's it!
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@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:
@irj said in Copying Content from other sources:
This isn't right... This is the opposite of how intelligent people think. As professionals we should want to be challenged. Scientists, engineers, IT, etc all do better with challenges. If I am wrong about something point it out!
We are generally talking about making decisions with hundred of thousands or millions of dollars daily. Who the hell wouldnt want to be called out if they are doing something wrong?
So sick of this snowflake mentality where everyone's feelings matter. Fuck your feelings. There is wrong and there is right...
There is an issue of a lack of listening and there is an issue that we can't challenge someone's ideas. I have my beliefs/positions, you want to have a polite discussion I will have it with you. I will listen to you and I want you to challenge the hell out of me and you know what, you might change my mind. If someone challenges you and you are forced to logically defend your positions it will make you flush them out more. I also have the right to challenge your positions. You challenge what some people believe they don't want to defend it. They immediately smear you or say you have offended them. There is a lack of thinking in today's society. They just take what someone says and run with it without investigating it for themselves.
I think this is always how people have been, hardly a new thing. We just see it differently now that so many things that used to be private discussions are now public, and recorded.
Some element of it might have always been there but it is worse now. I believe there was a time where it was better. When I went to college for my history degree (first degree) I remember the various religious groups coming together with the freethinkers (mostly atheists) having lively debates. Then we would all go out and do fun stuff together, frisbee football, scavenger hunts, etc. Also, the College Democrats and the College Republicans would get together have debates and then do things together. They would also pick a charity together and we all would work together to raise money for the charity. I would say that is not the norm anymore.
Yes, but prior to that.... Protestant Reformation, for example.
So probably best to say it ebbs and flows.
Yes, and manifests in different ways. Lots of aspects to it. I suspect it is an ebb and flow regionally. Like the special snowflake things seems to be very much an America and British thing right now. I don't see other countries having similar reactions.
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@dustinb3403 said in Copying Content from other sources:
@alanrafael10 said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller Maybe it's this one:
That's it!
UGH YOU ALL ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO POST LINKS!!!
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Oh, I'm so sorry about that. I was thinking I shouldn't have post that. I will delete my comment.
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@minion-queen said in Copying Content from other sources:
@dustinb3403 said in Copying Content from other sources:
@alanrafael10 said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller Maybe it's this one:
If you don't question me, you don't respect meThat's it!
UGH YOU ALL ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO POST LINKS!!!
Not even links? Not just not content?
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@alanrafael10 said in Copying Content from other sources:
Oh, I'm so sorry about that. I was thinking I shouldn't have post that. I will delete my comment.
Thanks for finding that, I searched and searched, can't believe that I wasn't able to find it. I definitely used the right search terms.
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@scottalanmiller said in Copying Content from other sources:
@minion-queen said in Copying Content from other sources:
@dustinb3403 said in Copying Content from other sources:
@alanrafael10 said in Copying Content from other sources:
@scottalanmiller Maybe it's this one:
If you don't question me, you don't respect meThat's it!
UGH YOU ALL ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO POST LINKS!!!
Not even links? Not just not content?
Right, that's what I thought?
