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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

      I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

      Yeah, sorry I missed that πŸ™‚

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @dbeato
        last edited by

        @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

        I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

        Yeah, sorry I missed that πŸ™‚

        LOL, there are lots of infrastructure things I'd not do on wifi. But the original article was pretty much written from an "all IT is the end user" perspective as if there was no tech involved anyway.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

          I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

          There's some new wireless about that I wouldn't be afraid to use as interconnects with servers, but it's not wifi. mm wave beamforming and 40Gb/s if I remember right.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

            I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

            Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @EddieJennings
              last edited by

              @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              |can|β€”β€”β€”stringβ€”β€”β€”|can|

              I win security!

              *snip, hides scissors*

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @dafyre
                last edited by

                @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                SAN is even worse.

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                • EddieJenningsE
                  EddieJennings @dafyre
                  last edited by

                  @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  |can|β€”β€”β€”stringβ€”β€”β€”|can|

                  I win security!

                  *snip, hides scissors*

                  Curses! Foiled by the script kiddie who googled how to compromise a yarn-based connection. πŸ˜›

                  </silliness>

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                  • EddieJenningsE
                    EddieJennings @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                    I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                    Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                    We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @EddieJennings
                      last edited by

                      @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                      I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                      Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                      We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                      Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

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                      • EddieJenningsE
                        EddieJennings @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                        I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                        Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                        We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                        Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                        I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                          I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                          Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                          We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                          Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                          I think so.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                            last edited by

                            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                            I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                            Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                            We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                            Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                            I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

                            Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                              I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                              Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                              We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                              Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                              I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

                              Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

                              Exactly.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Or to put it into really tech terms, it's a shared database file, a system lacking a DBMS.

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                                • EddieJenningsE
                                  EddieJennings
                                  last edited by EddieJennings

                                  Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                  But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                                    last edited by

                                    @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                    Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                    But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                    Is it a surprise that it is crap?

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                                    • EddieJenningsE
                                      EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                      @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                      Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                      But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                      Is it a surprise that it is crap?

                                      Nope. Just seeing learning more about exactly why it's crap.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @EddieJennings
                                        last edited by

                                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                        But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                        How old is your sage install?

                                        We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Business class databases always have a database server. Even simple websites like a WordPress site use a real RDBMS. Basically, Sage and QB don't see themselves in the same category, or even remotely close, with a little hobby blog site.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            Which, by extension, tells you a lot about what your accounting and financial staff thinks of the business.

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