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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato
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      The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @dbeato
        last edited by

        @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

        I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

          I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

          Yeah, sorry I missed that πŸ™‚

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dbeato
            last edited by

            @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

            I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

            Yeah, sorry I missed that πŸ™‚

            LOL, there are lots of infrastructure things I'd not do on wifi. But the original article was pretty much written from an "all IT is the end user" perspective as if there was no tech involved anyway.

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

              I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

              There's some new wireless about that I wouldn't be afraid to use as interconnects with servers, but it's not wifi. mm wave beamforming and 40Gb/s if I remember right.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @EddieJennings
                  last edited by

                  @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  |can|β€”β€”β€”stringβ€”β€”β€”|can|

                  I win security!

                  *snip, hides scissors*

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                    I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                    Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                    SAN is even worse.

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                    • EddieJenningsE
                      EddieJennings @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      |can|β€”β€”β€”stringβ€”β€”β€”|can|

                      I win security!

                      *snip, hides scissors*

                      Curses! Foiled by the script kiddie who googled how to compromise a yarn-based connection. πŸ˜›

                      </silliness>

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                      • EddieJenningsE
                        EddieJennings @dafyre
                        last edited by

                        @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                        I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                        Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                        We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @EddieJennings
                          last edited by

                          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                          I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                          Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                          We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                          Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

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                          • EddieJenningsE
                            EddieJennings @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                            I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                            Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                            We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                            Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                            I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                              I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                              Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                              We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                              Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                              I think so.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                                last edited by

                                @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                                I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                                Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                                We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                                Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                                I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

                                Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                  @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                  @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                  @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                  @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                  @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                  The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                                  I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                                  Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                                  We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                                  Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                                  I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

                                  Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

                                  Exactly.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Or to put it into really tech terms, it's a shared database file, a system lacking a DBMS.

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                                    • EddieJenningsE
                                      EddieJennings
                                      last edited by EddieJennings

                                      Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                      But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                                        last edited by

                                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                        But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                        Is it a surprise that it is crap?

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                                        • EddieJenningsE
                                          EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                          Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                          But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                          Is it a surprise that it is crap?

                                          Nope. Just seeing learning more about exactly why it's crap.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @EddieJennings
                                            last edited by

                                            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                            Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                            But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                            How old is your sage install?

                                            We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

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