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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

      I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

      There's some new wireless about that I wouldn't be afraid to use as interconnects with servers, but it's not wifi. mm wave beamforming and 40Gb/s if I remember right.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

        I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

        Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @EddieJennings
          last edited by

          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          |can|β€”β€”β€”stringβ€”β€”β€”|can|

          I win security!

          *snip, hides scissors*

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dafyre
            last edited by

            @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

            I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

            Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

            SAN is even worse.

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            • EddieJenningsE
              EddieJennings @dafyre
              last edited by

              @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              |can|β€”β€”β€”stringβ€”β€”β€”|can|

              I win security!

              *snip, hides scissors*

              Curses! Foiled by the script kiddie who googled how to compromise a yarn-based connection. πŸ˜›

              </silliness>

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              • EddieJenningsE
                EddieJennings @dafyre
                last edited by

                @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @EddieJennings
                  last edited by

                  @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                  I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                  Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                  We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                  Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

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                  • EddieJenningsE
                    EddieJennings @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                    I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                    Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                    We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                    Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                    I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                      I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                      Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                      We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                      Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                      I think so.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                        last edited by

                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                        I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                        Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                        We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                        Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                        I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

                        Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                          I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                          Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                          We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                          Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                          I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

                          Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

                          Exactly.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            Or to put it into really tech terms, it's a shared database file, a system lacking a DBMS.

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                            • EddieJenningsE
                              EddieJennings
                              last edited by EddieJennings

                              Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                              But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                                last edited by

                                @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                Is it a surprise that it is crap?

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                                • EddieJenningsE
                                  EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                  @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                  Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                  But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                  Is it a surprise that it is crap?

                                  Nope. Just seeing learning more about exactly why it's crap.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @EddieJennings
                                    last edited by

                                    @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                    Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                    But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                    How old is your sage install?

                                    We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      Business class databases always have a database server. Even simple websites like a WordPress site use a real RDBMS. Basically, Sage and QB don't see themselves in the same category, or even remotely close, with a little hobby blog site.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Which, by extension, tells you a lot about what your accounting and financial staff thinks of the business.

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                                        • EddieJenningsE
                                          EddieJennings @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                          Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                          But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                          How old is your sage install?

                                          We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

                                          We've had it literally since the beginning of time (when it was still Peachtree Accounting). We "upgraded" from version 2017 to 2018 last week.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @EddieJennings
                                            last edited by

                                            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                            @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                            Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                            But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                            How old is your sage install?

                                            We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

                                            We've had it literally since the beginning of time (when it was still Peachtree Accounting). We "upgraded" from version 2017 to 2018 last week.

                                            What's it called?

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