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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @zachary715
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      @zachary715 said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

      @momurda Short selling is an EXTREMELY risky business, but it can potentially come with great reward as well. Although I've not personally shorted a stock/industry/market as of date, I have played with some strategies in the past using fake accounts and had success. I mean how else am I supposed to make money off of $SNAP if I can't short it??

      Investing period is risky, it's government sanctioned gambling. There is nothing to prove that the business just isn't absconding with your money once you "buy stock" in them.

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      • momurdaM
        momurda @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @dustinb3403 totally untrue.
        Gambling, the house always wins over time.
        Investing, the investor always wins over time.

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        • bigbearB
          bigbear @momurda
          last edited by

          @momurda said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

          Never even understood why short selling was legal.
          I certainly dont listen to people that do that as their sole source of income.
          That webpage is worse than one of those click bait articles on MSN i click accidentally sometimes when Edge opens.

          Stock markets exist for speculation. If you think shorting is bad google "scalping futures".

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          • bigbearB
            bigbear @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

            Honestly it's Citron that looks like fraud. That article is straight out of Facebook "You'll be shocked to learn what happened next...." land. It's red flags of false journalism all over it.

            Do they make a point? Not one that I saw. Basically they sound jealous. Their complaints are that UBNT is doing well and they don't like the CEO. They don't complain about anything real. Just words used and the success numbers. And Citron goes on and on about how they expose more fraud than anyone. They sound like Donald Trump writing Facebook ad copy.

            I agree but almost anything legit in wallstreet has this feel. Andrew Left has been on CNBC and has been right in the past. I think with some issue with the way some drug companies inflated sales.

            However, after watching the video, he clearly is wrong about the way the community works. While there are definitely not 4 million ACTIVE community members we are all big fans of UBNT and I see it regularly recommended, particularly over Netgear. And yes, UBNT makes Netgear look like idiots.

            Still this insane camera on a necklace thing smacks of dissolution and perhaps a grasping at straws for a miracle product to fix hidden woes.

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            • zachary715Z
              zachary715 @bigbear
              last edited by

              @bigbear said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

              @momurda said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

              Never even understood why short selling was legal.
              I certainly dont listen to people that do that as their sole source of income.
              That webpage is worse than one of those click bait articles on MSN i click accidentally sometimes when Edge opens.

              Stock markets exist for speculation. If you think shorting is bad google "scalping futures".

              I think that's bold. Does speculation occur in the stock market? Yes. Are derivatives of the market such as options, futures, etc. speculative? Yes. To say they EXIST for speculation though I'm not sure I agree with. I think if purchasing stock in a company is "speculative" then so is purchasing real-estate for the purpose of renting it out. So is buying into a franchise restaurant. There's a difference between an investment and speculation (although sometimes this line is somewhat blurry).

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              • bigbearB
                bigbear @zachary715
                last edited by

                @zachary715 said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                @bigbear said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                @momurda said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                Never even understood why short selling was legal.
                I certainly dont listen to people that do that as their sole source of income.
                That webpage is worse than one of those click bait articles on MSN i click accidentally sometimes when Edge opens.

                Stock markets exist for speculation. If you think shorting is bad google "scalping futures".

                I think that's bold. Does speculation occur in the stock market? Yes. Are derivatives of the market such as options, futures, etc. speculative? Yes. To say they EXIST for speculation though I'm not sure I agree with. I think if purchasing stock in a company is "speculative" then so is purchasing real-estate for the purpose of renting it out. So is buying into a franchise restaurant. There's a difference between an investment and speculation (although sometimes this line is somewhat blurry).

                While I agree, if long term investment was the primary function for the NYSE we probably wouldn't have the same kind of wall street.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates
                  last edited by

                  I don't understand what the video is supposed to show?

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                  • Mike DavisM
                    Mike Davis @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @jaredbusch said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                    Not sure what HPE is doing with it all now.

                    This topic should fork, but I just configured my first Aruba branded HP Procurve today. I needed something with MAC filtering and as much as I looked, I couldn't find a Ubiquiti switch that did that. (I'm posting this in hopes someone can point out that they now have it.)

                    At any rate, the switch shipped with an HP firmware and Aruba painted on the outside. I poked around the web interface long enough to find the firmware update and then updated the firmware. The Aruba interface was way better visually. I don't know if any functionality was added, but there were a few things missing from the GUI. For example, you could set MAC address filtering on a port, but you couldn't view the MAC table in the GUI.

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                    • RojoLocoR
                      RojoLoco
                      last edited by

                      Looks like the SW brigade is jumping on this dogpile...

                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2054077-ubiquiti-networks-a-fraud?source=superfeed

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Mike Davis
                        last edited by

                        @mike-davis said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                        @jaredbusch said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                        Not sure what HPE is doing with it all now.

                        This topic should fork, but I just configured my first Aruba branded HP Procurve today. I needed something with MAC filtering and as much as I looked, I couldn't find a Ubiquiti switch that did that. (I'm posting this in hopes someone can point out that they now have it.)

                        At any rate, the switch shipped with an HP firmware and Aruba painted on the outside. I poked around the web interface long enough to find the firmware update and then updated the firmware. The Aruba interface was way better visually. I don't know if any functionality was added, but there were a few things missing from the GUI. For example, you could set MAC address filtering on a port, but you couldn't view the MAC table in the GUI.

                        This is a start
                        https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeSwitch/Mac-Filtering-on-EdgeSwitch24/td-p/1375891

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                        • dbeatoD
                          dbeato
                          last edited by

                          Ben from Ubiquiti posted this:
                          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/post/7229213
                          0_1505856078333_2017-09-19_1721.png

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            JB has already posted that enabling features tanks performance - but what do you want from a $100 firewall? JB recently purchased an 8 port ER. it would be interesting if he has time to test it like he did the last one.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              Even a 50/50 line would be unaffected by the QoS policies being enabled on an ERL. You have to be higher than that to see it.

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                              • Mike DavisM
                                Mike Davis @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                This is a start
                                https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeSwitch/Mac-Filtering-on-EdgeSwitch24/td-p/1375891

                                Thanks. I saw that and then saw posts like this one that are more recent and seem to conflict:
                                https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Mac-address-filtering-2017/td-p/1838775

                                So then I then I went to the website and downloaded the datasheet and couldn't find the feature listed:
                                https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_Switch_US-24_US-48_DS.pdf

                                I should have checked out the EdgeSwitch....

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @Mike Davis
                                  last edited by stacksofplates

                                  @mike-davis said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                  @jaredbusch said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                  Not sure what HPE is doing with it all now.

                                  This topic should fork, but I just configured my first Aruba branded HP Procurve today. I needed something with MAC filtering and as much as I looked, I couldn't find a Ubiquiti switch that did that. (I'm posting this in hopes someone can point out that they now have it.)

                                  At any rate, the switch shipped with an HP firmware and Aruba painted on the outside. I poked around the web interface long enough to find the firmware update and then updated the firmware. The Aruba interface was way better visually. I don't know if any functionality was added, but there were a few things missing from the GUI. For example, you could set MAC address filtering on a port, but you couldn't view the MAC table in the GUI.

                                  You mean static MAC assignment?

                                  0_1505857844879_mac.png

                                  There is also filtering for multiple ports

                                  0_1505858106687_mac-filter.png

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @Mike Davis
                                    last edited by

                                    @mike-davis said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                    @dashrender said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                    This is a start
                                    https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeSwitch/Mac-Filtering-on-EdgeSwitch24/td-p/1375891

                                    Thanks. I saw that and then saw posts like this one that are more recent and seem to conflict:
                                    https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Mac-address-filtering-2017/td-p/1838775

                                    So then I then I went to the website and downloaded the datasheet and couldn't find the feature listed:
                                    https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_Switch_US-24_US-48_DS.pdf

                                    I should have checked out the EdgeSwitch....

                                    Don't go with the Unifi switches. There EdgeSwitches are the way to go.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                      @mike-davis said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                      @dashrender said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                      This is a start
                                      https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeSwitch/Mac-Filtering-on-EdgeSwitch24/td-p/1375891

                                      Thanks. I saw that and then saw posts like this one that are more recent and seem to conflict:
                                      https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Mac-address-filtering-2017/td-p/1838775

                                      So then I then I went to the website and downloaded the datasheet and couldn't find the feature listed:
                                      https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_Switch_US-24_US-48_DS.pdf

                                      I should have checked out the EdgeSwitch....

                                      Don't go with the Unifi switches. There EdgeSwitches are the way to go.

                                      Do not go with UniFi anything except the Access Points.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @jaredbusch said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                        @coliver said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                        @mike-davis said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                        @dashrender said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                        This is a start
                                        https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeSwitch/Mac-Filtering-on-EdgeSwitch24/td-p/1375891

                                        Thanks. I saw that and then saw posts like this one that are more recent and seem to conflict:
                                        https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Mac-address-filtering-2017/td-p/1838775

                                        So then I then I went to the website and downloaded the datasheet and couldn't find the feature listed:
                                        https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_Switch_US-24_US-48_DS.pdf

                                        I should have checked out the EdgeSwitch....

                                        Don't go with the Unifi switches. There EdgeSwitches are the way to go.

                                        Do not go with UniFi anything except the Access Points.

                                        Yes, that's a good rule.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                          @coliver said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                          They sound like Donald Trump writing Facebook ad copy

                                          I may have laughed a bit too hard at this.

                                          That page was so bad, I literally read it in his voice.

                                          That's a travesty.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @jaredbusch said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                            @coliver said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                            @mike-davis said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                            @dashrender said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                            This is a start
                                            https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeSwitch/Mac-Filtering-on-EdgeSwitch24/td-p/1375891

                                            Thanks. I saw that and then saw posts like this one that are more recent and seem to conflict:
                                            https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Mac-address-filtering-2017/td-p/1838775

                                            So then I then I went to the website and downloaded the datasheet and couldn't find the feature listed:
                                            https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_Switch_US-24_US-48_DS.pdf

                                            I should have checked out the EdgeSwitch....

                                            Don't go with the Unifi switches. There EdgeSwitches are the way to go.

                                            Do not go with UniFi anything except the Access Points.

                                            So you wouldn't use the Unifi switches? What brand of switches would you guys recommend? Palo Alto?

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