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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @Francesco Provino
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      @francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

      Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.

      Because some of us "just" want it. Why it this so hard for some of you to understand?

      Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

      Yes it does.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @Obsolesce
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        @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

        I don't have a Fedora machine on me atm, can someone do a "dnf search cockpit" and show me the results? (if there's not too much output)

        0_1503851649396_Screenshot from 2017-08-27 09-33-46.png

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @FATeknollogee
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          @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

          @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

          I don't have a Fedora machine on me atm, can someone do a "dnf search cockpit" and show me the results? (if there's not too much output)

          0_1503851649396_Screenshot from 2017-08-27 09-33-46.png

          Cool... there's more there than I thought. I should have thought to do that a long time ago. Now I have some things to play with when I get some spare time at home.

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          • Emad RE
            Emad R @FATeknollogee
            last edited by Emad R

            @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

            Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

            Yes it does.

            Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @Emad R
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              @emad-r said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

              @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

              Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

              Yes it does.

              Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?

              BRB!

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @Emad R
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                @emad-r said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

                Yes it does.

                Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?

                0_1503852280958_Screenshot from 2017-08-27 09-44-26.png

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @Emad R
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                  @emad-r said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                  @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                  Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

                  Yes it does.

                  Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?

                  Also on Fedora vm's
                  0_1503852391011_Screenshot from 2017-08-27 09-45-58.png

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                    Francesco Provino @FATeknollogee
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                    @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                    @francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                    Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.

                    Because some of us "just" want it. Why it this so hard for some of you to understand?

                    Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

                    Yes it does.

                    @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                    @francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                    Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.

                    Because some of us "just" want it. Why it this so hard for some of you to understand?

                    Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

                    Yes it does.

                    I was not aware of the console redirection. Perhaps, it seems more like a link generator for the usual spice/vnc client. I can understand it for windows troubleshooting… no use at all for linux guests.

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                    • olivierO
                      olivier @Francesco Provino
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                      @francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                      Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.

                      That made me laugh a lot 😄

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee @olivier
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                        @olivier said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                        @francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                        Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.

                        That made me laugh a lot 😄

                        Why, you agree or disagree with that statement?

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                        • olivierO
                          olivier @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by olivier

                          @fateknollogee The need for UI in Open Source is ultra-important, and I don't get why people don't get it.

                          It's even possible to make some money with that 😉 So when I heard someone telling this, it's really funny and remind me some disdain I met in the past when I started Xen Orchestra.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @olivier
                            last edited by FATeknollogee

                            @olivier said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                            @fateknollogee The need for UI in Open Source is ultra-important, and I don't get why people don't get it.

                            Well said... @olivier
                            This is exactly what I said (in a prev post)..."Because some of us "just" want it. Why it this so hard for some of you to understand?"

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                            • olivierO
                              olivier
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                              It's hard to understand because sometimes there is a difference between being a tech person mastering a technology and being able to understand users need.

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee
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                                @olivier Can't you make XOA manage KVM via integration with Cockpit?
                                That would be a killer product!!

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                                • olivierO
                                  olivier
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                                  Can't be everywhere 😛 And this seems less fancy that communicating with KVM directly. Sadly, last time I inspected the "state of KVM APIs", it was far from XAPI features 😞 (in an agentless point of view)

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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee
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                                    Then let XOA communicate directly with KVM !
                                    Who says you can't be everywhere?

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                                    • olivierO
                                      olivier @FATeknollogee
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                                      @fateknollogee 1. Because KVM APIs are really light (like "pure" Xen APIs).
                                      2. This will require hiring 10 people approx for 1y.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @olivier
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                                        @olivier said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                        @fateknollogee 1. Because KVM APIs are really light (like "pure" Xen APIs).
                                        2. This will require hiring 10 people approx for 1y.

                                        10 people for a year for beer and food seems like a good investment.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates
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                                          CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                                          0_1505595593212_console.png

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @stacksofplates
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                                            @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                            CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                                            0_1505595593212_console.png

                                            Can it work like that in the browser with spice?

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