SMB vs Enterprise
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@scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
OH the immigration to the US definitely killed off the American Indian culture (with the exception of the Indian reservations. Indian culture and western culture were basically incompatible, so one had to go.
Most Indian culture was gone before the Europeans arrived. European immigration was a terrible factor, but not the big one. The Europeans coming to the new world in what is now the US found much of it already empty due to the plague that literally decimated the population. Indian culture was going through a shift when the Europeans arrived. Of course having the Europeans here totally changed things, too. but it wasn't the driving factor.
And take a guess on where that plague came from? They even purposely spread it!
It came from Europe, but Europeans didn't even know what it was or how diseases like that spread at the time. 90% of North America was dead before Europeans even got there to see them. They could not have spread it intentionally, everyone was dead before anyone knew what had happened. And in Latin America, it wasn't Europeans that brought it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics
That was many generations later. The American world was already all but wiped out by then. It was the little understood 1616 epidemic, that wasn't even fully recognized until the last decade, that wiped out 90% of the entire population of the new world before the Europeans had even settled in North America. That's why Plymouth Colony was empty and built on the burial grounds and abandoned villages of the area.
Where did the plague come from then?
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@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
OH the immigration to the US definitely killed off the American Indian culture (with the exception of the Indian reservations. Indian culture and western culture were basically incompatible, so one had to go.
Most Indian culture was gone before the Europeans arrived. European immigration was a terrible factor, but not the big one. The Europeans coming to the new world in what is now the US found much of it already empty due to the plague that literally decimated the population. Indian culture was going through a shift when the Europeans arrived. Of course having the Europeans here totally changed things, too. but it wasn't the driving factor.
And take a guess on where that plague came from? They even purposely spread it!
It came from Europe, but Europeans didn't even know what it was or how diseases like that spread at the time. 90% of North America was dead before Europeans even got there to see them. They could not have spread it intentionally, everyone was dead before anyone knew what had happened. And in Latin America, it wasn't Europeans that brought it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics
That was many generations later. The American world was already all but wiped out by then. It was the little understood 1616 epidemic, that wasn't even fully recognized until the last decade, that wiped out 90% of the entire population of the new world before the Europeans had even settled in North America. That's why Plymouth Colony was empty and built on the burial grounds and abandoned villages of the area.
Where did the plague come from then?
They don't know for sure. The common theory was from contact with fishing boats. But as it was undocumented, no one knows for sure. Everyone is sure that it spread from European contact, but not settled contact. And it was before Europeans knew what diseases were, so it could not have been intentional. In other parts of the world, those diseases were pretty minor, so that it killed people at any rate was quite shocking and there was no way to predict it, or to know about it.
When the Spaniards explored the Mississippi Valley, the death had happened in front of them so they only discovered empty cities, they had no idea what had happened or how long before.
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Even in modern times, the impact of some traditional diseases on unprepared American populations was believed to be a myth until small pox hit a remote Amazonian Basin area and the death rate hit 90% inside the fire line.
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I think I was originally thinking of New Spain (modern day Mexico) and even South America. 1500's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
But even still, in the mid 1700s, it was used as an early biological warfare or weapon on the Indians.
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@Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:
I think I was originally thinking of New Spain (modern day Mexico) and even South America. 1500's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
But even still, in the mid 1700s, it was used as an early biological warfare or weapon on the Indians.
Oh yes, by the 1700s. Sure. But that was several generations after the original culture and even some civilizations had been wiped out completely.
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@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.
You need to stop following Donald Trump on Twitter
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@Carnival-Boy said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.
You need to stop following Donald Trump on Twitter
Thought I recognised that statement. Absolute bollocks.
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@Dashrender said
I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.
There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.
I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.
Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.
Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.
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@Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said
I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.
There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.
I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.
Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.
Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.
Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about. -
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said
I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.
There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.
I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.
Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.
Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.
Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.Some of the worst things in recorded human history have happened in the name of one god or another.
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@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said
I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.
There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.
I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.
Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.
Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.
Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.
The rest described is just rough areas in general.
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@JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said
I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.
There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.
I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.
Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.
Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.
Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.
The rest described is just rough areas in general.
You said they used it as justification- regardless of how it's used the fact is that it was used.
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@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said
I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.
There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.
I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.
Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.
Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.
Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.
The rest described is just rough areas in general.
You said they used it as justification- regardless of how it's used the fact is that it was used.
Your statement said Sharia Law is taking over, that is not true. That is not the same as "some people" using it as justification.
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@JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said
I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.
There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.
I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.
Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.
Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.
Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.
The rest described is just rough areas in general.
You said they used it as justification- regardless of how it's used the fact is that it was used.
Your statement said Sharia Law is taking over, that is not true. That is not the same as "some people" using it as justification.
Ok fine it's not taking over but it is why the police don't go in those areas unless in force - or at least the give excuse.
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@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said
I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.
There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.
I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.
Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.
Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.
Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.
The rest described is just rough areas in general.
You said they used it as justification- regardless of how it's used the fact is that it was used.
Your statement said Sharia Law is taking over, that is not true. That is not the same as "some people" using it as justification.
Ok fine it's not taking over but it is why the police don't go in those areas unless in force - or at least the give excuse.
Those parts of his statement weren't related, there is harassment of the public with Sharia used as an excuse in the smallest of minorities. Remove Muslims from the UK and there would be no fewer of these areas where police don't feel safe to patrol.
I don't mind what you say about the police, but using your statement about Muslims with no idea of the actual situation seems stupid and targeted.
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@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Dashrender said
I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.
There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.
I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.
Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.
Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.
Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.
The rest described is just rough areas in general.
You said they used it as justification- regardless of how it's used the fact is that it was used.
Your statement said Sharia Law is taking over, that is not true. That is not the same as "some people" using it as justification.
Ok fine it's not taking over but it is why the police don't go in those areas unless in force - or at least the give excuse.
By that standard, Sharia law is "taking over" the US too, including Nebraska. Do you feel that that is a good statement?
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@Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:
European work law is great, especially if you have a family. It's similar to Italy or better in most European countries.
In the U.S., it's hardcore capitalism... all about pinching pennies and screwing the employees if need be. There's a lot of exceptions (of course, like where John Nicholson works, and my employer is great), but generally speaking I mean. If you have a higher position in an F500 company it is most likely OKAY. But still, never even close to how good it is in Europe. That's why they are always named the happiest countries, especially the Scandinavian counties and Canada.My sister gets 6 months in DC working for a non-profit.Plenty of companies offer generous benefits like this, they are just normally not SMBs.
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@John-Nicholson said in SMB vs Enterprise:
@Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:
European work law is great, especially if you have a family. It's similar to Italy or better in most European countries.
In the U.S., it's hardcore capitalism... all about pinching pennies and screwing the employees if need be. There's a lot of exceptions (of course, like where John Nicholson works, and my employer is great), but generally speaking I mean. If you have a higher position in an F500 company it is most likely OKAY. But still, never even close to how good it is in Europe. That's why they are always named the happiest countries, especially the Scandinavian counties and Canada.My sister gets 6 months in DC working for a non-profit.Plenty of companies offer generous benefits like this, they are just normally not SMBs.
I got that for a little company in California, too.
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@scottalanmiller At the MSP I worked at we were the low cost operations/network team for some nordic companies because their benefits made it borderline impossible to have operations staff...
38 hour work week means you often have IT staff stop responding to email/calls before Thursday.
2-3 week holidays where the whole country shuts down effectively. (China and Thailand are bad about this too).
I've been watching the hiring process for a new team member in EMEA and it's insane all the crazy paperwork and weird stuff.
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@matteo-nunziati The issue isn't the cost, the issue is operation issues. SMB's often dangerously live with institutional knowledge and relationships for sales being tied to 1-2 people. The wrong people go on leave and the company will implode.
You actually reach a point to where this leads to discrimination in hiring. I worked for a SMB that hired someone in a critical 1 person role who got pregnant and went on leave. We had to pay significant premiums to bring back old staff to consult and if they had not been available that entire piece of operations might have fallen apart (even beyond the cost of the supplemental labor). I can see unscrupulous managers avoiding hiring younger women for this reason.
