I'd like to add that it is generally much easier to change positions when going to a new company. If you are valuable to the helpdesk or desktop support team, they may not want to let you go. Even if you do move from the helpdesk, you will always be looked at as the low man on the totem pole for your new team.
It is much easier to go apply for a desktop support job after having 1-2 years experience in helpdesk. Then after you have 1-2 years experience as desktop support, you can move to a networking or system position with a new company. If you move within the company the timeframe will be more like 3-5 years considering you have to L1-L3.
I agree completely with this.
I moved divisions to get away from the deskside support.
This just came up in an IT buyer's community and I think it is really important:
IT Practitioners get their knowledge from IT peers, industry training, logic, math and experience. Same as any other technical pursuit like civil engineering.
IT Buyers should get their knowledge for IT Practitioners
IT Buyers who believe themselves to be IT practitioners use whitepapers - a quasi-technical sales tool that looks like technical advice but is actually vendor sales advice. Whitepaper is an IT industry term for a marketing brochure with technical information used to guide customers to what the vendor wants done - which is not necessarily bad, but is not the same thing as industry advice. The vendor's agenda is not the same as the customer's agenda in all cases. IT works for customers, whitepapers represent vendors.
Similarly, Gartner could be considered the same as whitepapers, without the technical benefits.
For tech people I think college is a waste of time.
Depends on the kind of tech. There's stuff you should definitely learn in a classroom before you have any business being on a job site. I generally agree that fundamentally how higher education is taught could be improved greatly.
Doesn't mean college, though. Those are normally safety things. And classrooms teach very little. If it's risky, they should be certified. It's the testing that matters, not the classroom.
@scottalanmiller Although thats true, I think that internships should have a set person to mentor them (in some respects) and set aside a few hours a week or day, and work with interns and in the off time the interns would be better off reading, and doing "homework"
There are great alternative schools out there, SUNY Empire is my favourite. Great education, very non-traditional. But it isn't an end run around the college education, either. It's a real college, harder than a normal one, rather than easier. But still completely alternative so you have a lot of flexibility. I don't want to make all colleges sound bad, shop around and there are great options. I am just warning against a certain category of colleges that are very risky.
Every company I have ever worked for already had a functional (more or less) domain with multiple domain controllers. I have never needed to setup my own domain, forest, subdomains, etc. I just recently had to delve into it and learned a lot, but I by no means know everything. Frankly, until I experience something from a lot of different angles I don't think I really know it. Most of my personal knowledge is conceptual but there is so much misinformation out there that before I joined ML I didn't know if what I was reading was correct. It sounded right, but I had no way of really knowing. Misinformation is what makes learning hard IMO. It forces me to need to forget information as well as retain information instead of fully concentrating on retaining it.
how does hearing it on ML help you know it's right?
because everyone corrects everyone here in an effort to make the information accurate. we heavily scrutinize each other in an effort to improve one another. Look at RAID on ML vs Spiceworks. That's a great example.
I haven't been on SW as much lately - Is Scott not correcting whatever wrong over there he finds? Or are you saying his voice is lost in a sea of other garbage and is basically getting lost in the noise?
I would say his voice is lost in the sea of other garbage and people muting him, lol.
I was on SW for a couple of years before I met Scott, and actually directly messaged him a question, I think.
I'm muted several times a day, it's crazy. Post "I don't recommend FreeNAS" and it's instant muting from a lot of people. For every post someone makes that makes sense, there are a dozen vendor pointless posts pushing their product and about five people posting all confused about something basic in the same way.
do you get notices when you are muted?
Yes, but not who is muting. Also, not always even what thread.
The last time that I was muted, but only the last time, it told me what thread. That's how I knew it was the FreeNAS one.
Start looking for a new job immediately. You are 5 months pregnant not 8.5 months. So I wouldn't say that employers wouldn't hire you. I am sure you will probably get discriminated against since you are pregnant, but I don't believe that is going to be the case with every employer. Some may actually feel for your situation (certainly women and probably some men).
And it is illegal for the potential employer to even record that information or pass it along.
@FiyaFly Using the US government statistics (the value of university is extremely nationality dependent, if you are in the UK the importance of university is dramatically higher, but so are their education standards and their high school standards) we did this study just a few months ago. College lost by more than we were expecting.
I've always loved computer, they're logical, whereas people almost never are. Actually started as an assistant to the sole IT person at the county Career Center. I ended up as said assistant because nobody else knew a thing about computers/networking and I was in a program that was supposed to give me some training in that. One of the best things that could've happened for me, as I got a little real-world IT experience while still in high school, and also other business basics like accounting and management principals (or, what people say they should be anyway.) So I can have conversations with accounting, finance, marketing, etc and have a clue.
Spent two years getting a worthless piece of paper. "Associates of Computer Repair and Network Technician" between 1997 and 1999. During that same time I was working for a large car parts manufacturing plant as an IT Co-op, where I was hired on after graduating and continued to work there till 2002.
You don't think learning programming in college is possible/worthwhile?
You shoudl be able to learn an entire college course in 2-3 days on your own for free, or for the cost of a book.
A whole 2-3 days? You must be feeling generous today. I tried taking a single course about 10 years ago which finally polished off whatever trust I had ever had in "the system".
Kinesthetic - doing what you are attempting to learn
I found it really helpful to know what type of learner I am. When I really need to absorb all of the information of something I'll record myself reading it aloud and play it back to myself, put it into a test environment if possible and also look at diagrams. I think mixing all of them together, provided it's organized, can be really useful even if you favor a specific type of learning.
The Dilbert principle is probably the correct one, the Peter principle was the only thing I could think of.
In either case a person who is incapable of performing a task is promoted (and with it any professionalism they had goes with em)
I'd say it might be neither. This person may be great at his job but is just an asshole (or twat, as we say in England). I've worked with a few brilliant salesmen who I want to kill. They're awful in every way apart from their ability to pusuade customers to depart with large amounts of cash. These people are rare though.
Of course, your guy is probably useless at his job, but it's not a given from what you've written. The only given is that he/she's a twat.
Looks like it's time for the job hunt to begin, I'm unable to grow with my current company and just feel like it's time, I'm at an impasse though, I'm supposed to attend the TCEA conference in February (It's already paid for) it's a beneficial conference that I think would be an awesome opportunity to attend. What would your advice be?
Honestly, a job hunt at this time of year could easily take until February, so start looking and plan on attending.
I'm with Jared, Job hunts typically take a long time, especially if you are looking for something better rather than looking to take "anything." So start hunting, see what is out there and start practicing your interview skills. If you find the "right" job before then, just schedule to start in March. Jobs rarely require you to start immediately. Once they have their right candidate, waiting is rarely a big deal. They have to plan many months for looking for someone so they have to be flexible already.
@Dashrender because more teachers are learning new things and constantly are changing the way they are teaching, the state makes changes, the materials change. They could change them for any reason. Example, my best friend is a technology teacher, this is her first year, and she's already started making her lesson plans for next year, to make the class more interesting for her students. Different projects, more hands on, the sky is the limit! Well the state's limit...lol
Good write up. I've seen this exact situation where a company will offer to change your title in lieu of a promotion. So wrong.
That is sadly way too common. To the point where certain titles make me just plain wary. Anyone with "directory" in their title I immediately assume was the most junior guy that was willing to work harder without more money for the best title he could think of.