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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

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      I will look at it more indepth then,... from my reading it appeared to be limited to email.

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      • gjacobseG
        gjacobse
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        Comparison of Zimbra versions

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

          There is no replacement for Outlook, really never will be. Web is what replaced it. Outlook is the lingering client/server piece of Exchange.

          Sadly when a single person manages email, calendar and tasks for several different people, OWA is not the answer.

          What is your response time with synchronizing with O365?

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          • coliverC
            coliver @gjacobse
            last edited by

            @gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

            @scottalanmiller said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

            There is no replacement for Outlook, really never will be. Web is what replaced it. Outlook is the lingering client/server piece of Exchange.

            Sadly when a single person manages email, calendar and tasks for several different people, OWA is not the answer.

            What is your response time with synchronizing with O365?

            With OWA? Instantaneous except for the permissions aspect which takes 10-15 minutes.

            Emails I understand but OWA can easily manage other users tasks and calendar events. Emails are also pretty easy to manage with OWA but not as easy as the other two apps.

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            • Minion QueenM
              Minion Queen Banned
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              The customer has 7 exchange email accounts. That would = 7 OWA's open at the same time, 7 Calendars, 7 Tasks lists. That is 21 Open Webpages, just for email etc.! All of these are busy email accounts and schedules.

              Outlook it's self is not built for this. Can't handle it.

              So looking for a desktop ap to organize the craziness.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                What if you turn off Cached Mode with 7 accounts?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @gjacobse
                  last edited by

                  @gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                  There is no replacement for Outlook, really never will be. Web is what replaced it. Outlook is the lingering client/server piece of Exchange.

                  Sadly when a single person manages email, calendar and tasks for several different people, OWA is not the answer.

                  What is your response time with synchronizing with O365?

                  Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @Minion Queen
                    last edited by

                    @Minion-Queen said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                    The customer has 7 exchange email accounts. That would = 7 OWA's open at the same time, 7 Calendars, 7 Tasks lists. That is 21 Open Webpages, just for email etc.! All of these are busy email accounts and schedules.

                    Outlook it's self is not built for this. Can't handle it.

                    So looking for a desktop ap to organize the craziness.

                    This doesn't seem fair - Outlook wouldn't have 7 panes open for email (I hope) nor 7 panes open for Calendars (I hope) or 7 panes open for Task lists (I hope)... because then you'd have the same 21+ windows open, just that they would all be Outlook inside of a web browser.

                    So sure, I can see that they might have 7 webpages open, one for each account, then you click email/calendar/Tasks inside each depending on what you want to look at at that moment.

                    Unless you're really telling us that they do have 21 open windows for Outlook - then I ask you, how in the world do that manage that?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                      Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?

                      of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                        @Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                        Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?

                        of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?

                        /sigh -

                        Yes @JaredBusch I was asking if all of these users are on the same O365 account. If they are, then OWA can get access to them all in a single pane of glass. If they are in different O365 accounts, then you will have to use different browser tabs for each, assuming that works - I've seen cookie issues not allow things like that before.

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                        • Minion QueenM
                          Minion Queen Banned
                          last edited by

                          Think of it this way. Secretary for a sales team: 7 team members, with totally unique email accounts, but she helps answer their emails, coordinates calendars and task lists. So she needs not only to receive but to send as them as well.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                            last edited by

                            @gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                            There is no replacement for Outlook, really never will be. Web is what replaced it. Outlook is the lingering client/server piece of Exchange.

                            Sadly when a single person manages email, calendar and tasks for several different people, OWA is not the answer.

                            What is your response time with synchronizing with O365?

                            There is none. OWA is looking right at the server. Nothing to synchronize.

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                            • gjacobseG
                              gjacobse @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                              @JaredBusch said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                              @Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                              Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?

                              of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?

                              /sigh -

                              Yes @JaredBusch I was asking if all of these users are on the same O365 account. If they are, then OWA can get access to them all in a single pane of glass. If they are in different O365 accounts, then you will have to use different browser tabs for each, assuming that works - I've seen cookie issues not allow things like that before.

                              This is what you need. I use two o365 accounts ... one is @companyONE the other is @companyTWO. Sometimes I've had @companyTHREE asll well.

                              Never have I been able to have all three of these in one browser, so it's been ONE in Chome, TWO in Firefox and THREE in Chromium.

                              So, do do what is needed, is Three browsers, and three tabs per for Mail, Tasks and Calendar....

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                                last edited by

                                @gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                Comparison of Zimbra versions

                                Yup, they all have calendar, tasks, etc.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @gjacobse
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                                  @gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                  @Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                  @Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                  Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?

                                  of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?

                                  /sigh -

                                  Yes @JaredBusch I was asking if all of these users are on the same O365 account. If they are, then OWA can get access to them all in a single pane of glass. If they are in different O365 accounts, then you will have to use different browser tabs for each, assuming that works - I've seen cookie issues not allow things like that before.

                                  This is what you need. I use two o365 accounts ... one is @companyONE the other is @companyTWO. Sometimes I've had @companyTHREE asll well.

                                  Never have I been able to have all three of these in one browser, so it's been ONE in Chome, TWO in Firefox and THREE in Chromium.

                                  So, do do what is needed, is Three browsers, and three tabs per for Mail, Tasks and Calendar....

                                  as an aside, this one is worth a try

                                  https://www.waterfoxproject.org/

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                    @gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                    Comparison of Zimbra versions

                                    Yup, they all have calendar, tasks, etc.

                                    As you already said, this is an email server, this does not solve the problem.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @gjacobse
                                      last edited by

                                      @gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                      @Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                      @Dashrender said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                      Are all of these accounts on the same O365 account?

                                      of course not. how can 2 accounts be on 1 account? you mean multiple users on one O365 account?

                                      /sigh -

                                      Yes @JaredBusch I was asking if all of these users are on the same O365 account. If they are, then OWA can get access to them all in a single pane of glass. If they are in different O365 accounts, then you will have to use different browser tabs for each, assuming that works - I've seen cookie issues not allow things like that before.

                                      This is what you need. I use two o365 accounts ... one is @companyONE the other is @companyTWO. Sometimes I've had @companyTHREE asll well.

                                      Never have I been able to have all three of these in one browser, so it's been ONE in Chome, TWO in Firefox and THREE in Chromium.

                                      So, do do what is needed, is Three browsers, and three tabs per for Mail, Tasks and Calendar....

                                      Yeah I was wondering if you'd have a cookie/authentication issue?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @Minion Queen
                                        last edited by

                                        @Minion-Queen said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                        Think of it this way. Secretary for a sales team: 7 team members, with totally unique email accounts, but she helps answer their emails, coordinates calendars and task lists. So she needs not only to receive but to send as them as well.

                                        If this secretary is working for one company, and assuming all sales people are on the same O365 account, then a single pane with all of them should be doable - sure she'll have to click on the person's name in the lower left corner to change between accounts, but do you really want to have dozens of table/windows open to flip between views? Is clicking on their username that slow?

                                        Gene - do they really need a tab to be open for Email, and one for Calendar and one for Tasks? moving between the applets is to complex/time consuming?

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                                        • momurdaM
                                          momurda @gjacobse
                                          last edited by

                                          @gjacobse said in Exchange Outlook Client replacement:

                                          First off please note that this is about MS Outlook, but not in regards to email functionality. The email function operates fine.

                                          I am looking for an MS Outlook replacement that can properly handle multiple Exchange accounts and functions of:

                                          • Email
                                          • Calendaring
                                          • Task Management
                                          • CRM not needed
                                          • Organization with colors / flags
                                          • Supports multiple accounts (currently at seven)

                                          When Outlook 2016 connects to Exchange ( Office 365) to one or two accounts it operates normally. However with six and higher it becomes unstable and crashes repeatedly.

                                          While OpenSource would be nice, it is not a high requirement. But the remaining items are, as a single person needs to access and respond as several accounts at once. Separate programs become inefficient and problematic.

                                          Right now I am looking through this list of options, which have also been mentioned here on ML and recently.

                                          Options that have been looked at already are:

                                          • Zimbra - Not suitable as the task and calendar feature is needed.
                                          • Mozilla - Crashes with more that two accounts, and deleting a email can seemingly take 24 hours
                                          • Inky Pro - Possible and am researching
                                          • Windows Mail - Lacks Calendar / Tasks
                                          • Mailbird - Lacks Calendar / Tasks
                                          • Opera Mail - Lacks Calendar / Tasks
                                          • ...

                                          Still searching and review products.. but I have not found anything as of yet that meets these requirements.

                                          Windows Mail, at least on Win10, does have Calendar. but not tasks. Then there is the fact it likes crashing, a lot

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ
                                            last edited by IRJ

                                            This is so ridiculous. You have 7 employees and can't afford for them to have email. Maybe in 1999, that was acceptable but not now. Here is a list of reasons why this is a problem:

                                            No reliable auditing (who sent or deleted that last email?)
                                            Confidential emails could be opened by other users
                                            Account lockouts can cause delay to email
                                            Very unprofessional. Personal gmail accounts are more acceptable

                                            I have a solution for you, but the auditing probably isnt the easiest and it will cost you $10 a month which might be too much money for this company if they have hosting with Cpanel:

                                            Even if they don't all you need to do is migrate their domain to a webserver with cpanel. You can just spin up a mail service and webmail. You get a calendar, email, tasks, etc.

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