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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      I feel like this topic was forked.

      To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

        I feel like this topic was forked.

        To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

        If you only "use what you are most comfortable with" at what point does one ever get out of their comfort zone & try something new?

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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          @FATeknollogee said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

          @DustinB3403 said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

          I feel like this topic was forked.

          To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

          If you only "use what you are most comfortable with" at what point does one ever get out of their comfort zone & try something new?

          This is a matter of production use vs lab use. In a lab, use whatever you want.

          I get the concept, but it's a business matter, not a comfort one.

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          • CloudKnightC
            CloudKnight
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            Nothing Wrong with Xenserver, stable, stable, stable, horses for courses.......

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
              last edited by JaredBusch

              XS is stable, yes. But my problem with XS, as always, is backups and ease of handoff.

              I had XS 6.5 up and running in my home lab for a while and those were the two issue that prevented me from doing anything with it in production.

              Remember that "in production" means up and running in a tiny SMB that I am rarely at in person. XO is making things better, but then that turns into more expense with XOA or my time from source.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                I feel like this topic was forked.

                To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

                It was forked, much to my amazement, without me asking, from https://mangolassi.it/topic/12296/my-experiences-with-hyper-v-server-2016

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                  XS is stable, yes. But my problem with XS, as always, is backups and ease of handoff.

                  You mean "handing off" the system to someone else?

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
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                    @FATeknollogee said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                    @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                    XS is stable, yes. But my problem with XS, as always, is backups and ease of handoff.

                    You mean "handing off" the system to someone else?

                    Yes.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch That's a valid concern!

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                        Remember that "in production" means up and running in a tiny SMB that I am rarely at in person. XO is making things better, but then that turns into more expense with XOA or my time from source.

                        My thing about XO for MSPs, is that in a case where you can manage multiple clients, you can use XO as a central management console. Maybe you have a tool for that for Hyper-V or maybe you can't use that use case, but that's something I like a lot about XS and XO from an MSP perspective.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                          @DustinB3403 said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                          I feel like this topic was forked.

                          To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

                          It was forked, much to my amazement, without me asking, from https://mangolassi.it/topic/12296/my-experiences-with-hyper-v-server-2016

                          I thought the "fork" was a good idea, that way I didn't "jack" your original thread, since I was responsible for the sideways question

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
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                            @FATeknollogee said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                            @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                            @DustinB3403 said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                            I feel like this topic was forked.

                            To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

                            It was forked, much to my amazement, without me asking, from https://mangolassi.it/topic/12296/my-experiences-with-hyper-v-server-2016

                            I thought the "fork" was a good idea, that way I didn't "jack" your original thread, since I was responsible for the sideways question

                            My opinion here is not new. I have stated it before in other threads.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              some one tag this thread.

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
                                last edited by FATeknollogee

                                @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                XS is stable, yes. But my problem with XS, as always, is backups and ease of handoff.

                                I've tried to ask @Olivier why not offer an SMB centric XOA version (priced right) with just the backup & DR features

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                  some one tag this thread.

                                  Done

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                    @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                    Remember that "in production" means up and running in a tiny SMB that I am rarely at in person. XO is making things better, but then that turns into more expense with XOA or my time from source.

                                    My thing about XO for MSPs, is that in a case where you can manage multiple clients, you can use XO as a central management console. Maybe you have a tool for that for Hyper-V or maybe you can't use that use case, but that's something I like a lot about XS and XO from an MSP perspective.

                                    Wouldn't that mean exposing your XS to the internet? I suppose not if you lock the inbound ports to the IP of the XO, where ever it's hosted. So from a management point of view, that's great, but I don't think most would end up using the backup portion in that situation, soooo...

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @FATeknollogee
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                                      @FATeknollogee said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                      @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                      XS is stable, yes. But my problem with XS, as always, is backups and ease of handoff.

                                      I've tried to ask @Olivier why not offer an SMB centric XOA version (priced right) with just the backup & DR features

                                      And he responded to that saying that it would bankrupt his company. They would spend so much time supporting those SMBs on that low price that they would lose money.

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                        Wouldn't that mean exposing your XS to the internet? I suppose not if you lock the inbound ports to the IP of the XO, where ever it's hosted. So from a management point of view, that's great, but I don't think most would end up using the backup portion in that situation, soooo...

                                        How is this different from using (as an example) the built-in replication tool in Hyper-V? Either way you still need the 'net?

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                                        • FATeknollogeeF
                                          FATeknollogee @Dashrender
                                          last edited by FATeknollogee

                                          @Dashrender said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                          And he responded to that saying that it would bankrupt his company. They would spend so much time supporting those SMBs on that low price that they would lose money.

                                          He told you that or you just making stuff up?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                            @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                            Remember that "in production" means up and running in a tiny SMB that I am rarely at in person. XO is making things better, but then that turns into more expense with XOA or my time from source.

                                            My thing about XO for MSPs, is that in a case where you can manage multiple clients, you can use XO as a central management console. Maybe you have a tool for that for Hyper-V or maybe you can't use that use case, but that's something I like a lot about XS and XO from an MSP perspective.

                                            Wouldn't that mean exposing your XS to the internet? I suppose not if you lock the inbound ports to the IP of the XO, where ever it's hosted. So from a management point of view, that's great, but I don't think most would end up using the backup portion in that situation, soooo...

                                            No different than Meraki or Unifi. What's wrong with that?

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