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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

      @scottalanmiller said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

      @DustinB3403 said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

      CBT is available for UrBackUp as well, in the commercial version.

      CBT? Like an online training module?

      No . . . Change Block Tracking.

      Oh, ha ha. But agent based, not for XS, right?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        There is dedupe according to the site:

        "Space efficient. If multiple clients have the same files the UrBackup server saves them only once, leading to reduced storage requirements."

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

          @DustinB3403 said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

          @scottalanmiller said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

          @DustinB3403 said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

          CBT is available for UrBackUp as well, in the commercial version.

          CBT? Like an online training module?

          No . . . Change Block Tracking.

          Oh, ha ha. But agent based, not for XS, right?

          Well it would work inside of a VM I presume... since you need to install an agent for UrBackUp. .

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

            @scottalanmiller said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

            @DustinB3403 said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

            @scottalanmiller said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

            @DustinB3403 said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

            CBT is available for UrBackUp as well, in the commercial version.

            CBT? Like an online training module?

            No . . . Change Block Tracking.

            Oh, ha ha. But agent based, not for XS, right?

            Well it would work inside of a VM I presume... since you need to install an agent for UrBackUp. .

            Yeah, that's not what anyone is really looking for.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre
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              I'm in the "Use an Agent" camp... Especially if you can push configuration settings, etc, via the server. (As is the case with UR Backup, IIRC).

              As part of the push command to the agent, point it to the server... and let the server manage everything.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                I'm in the middle, I like both agent and agentless approaches. I like how agent based is more flexible and agnostic. You can push to cloud and keep the agent, too.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  I find myself in between the two options as well. I really do see the upside to Veeam, but if the solution doesn't work with the infrastructure I couldn't justify changing the entire thing just for a backup solution.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @dafyre
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                    @dafyre said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                    I'm in the "Use an Agent" camp... Especially if you can push configuration settings, etc, via the server. (As is the case with UR Backup, IIRC).

                    As part of the push command to the agent, point it to the server... and let the server manage everything.

                    Me too. Puppet sets the ReaR configs on the nodes pointed to an NFS share. If I want to change anything, puppet does it for me on however many systems I want.

                    So as soon as the machine is finished kick-starting and restarts, it pulls in the puppet catalog and backups are configured.

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                    • Reid CooperR
                      Reid Cooper
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                      Agents just feel so... reliable. I guess it is the admin in me, I want to see the backup running, not just trust that it is working from somewhere else.

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                      • StrongBadS
                        StrongBad
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                        There is something really nice, though, about not needing an agent. Just talk to the hypervisor, get everything that you need, and know that everything on it is backed up.

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite
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                          Starting with Hyper-V Server 2016, Change Block Tracking is available. Well they are calling it Resilient Change Tracking (RCT).

                          https://cdub.azurewebsites.net/2016/08/01/whats-the-scoop-on-hyper-v-2016-resilient-change-tracking-rct/

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                            @black3dynamite said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                            Starting with Hyper-V Server 2016, Change Block Tracking is available.

                            Yeah, that's the biggest feature of the update. It's huge. But sucks for Veeam who did so much work building CBT for Hyper-V and now they will not be unique any longer.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller

                              Altaro VM Backup also had to create their own CBT for Hyper-V too.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                                last edited by

                                @black3dynamite said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                                @scottalanmiller

                                Altaro VM Backup also had to create their own CBT for Hyper-V too.

                                I can't believe that no one has done this for XenServer or KVM yet. Seems like it would be a huge win to have it.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                                  @black3dynamite said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                                  @scottalanmiller

                                  Altaro VM Backup also had to create their own CBT for Hyper-V too.

                                  I can't believe that no one has done this for XenServer or KVM yet. Seems like it would be a huge win to have it.

                                  Don't you remember the first rule of XS Club?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                                    @black3dynamite said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                                    @scottalanmiller

                                    Altaro VM Backup also had to create their own CBT for Hyper-V too.

                                    I can't believe that no one has done this for XenServer or KVM yet. Seems like it would be a huge win to have it.

                                    Don't you remember the first rule of XS Club?

                                    I can't say.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                                      @BRRABill said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                                      @black3dynamite said in UrBackup Review plus Configuration Options:

                                      @scottalanmiller

                                      Altaro VM Backup also had to create their own CBT for Hyper-V too.

                                      I can't believe that no one has done this for XenServer or KVM yet. Seems like it would be a huge win to have it.

                                      Don't you remember the first rule of XS Club?

                                      I can't say.

                                      No that's the first rule of Fight Club.

                                      The first rule of XS Club is .... AS-IS!

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        Something I just noticed reading the UrBackup Website is that the CBT feature is $17 per Client excluding VAT.

                                        That's really cheap.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          Oh this is another cool feature that was added recently.

                                          Change Log 2.1.18 Image Mounting, browsing and archival.

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