If LAN is legacy, what is the UN-legacy...?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Except most phones can already handle OpenVPN natively. ZT would be nice but you have to figure out how to build it into a phone. or Phone App to make it useful.
OpenVPN on iPhone, for example, has traditionally been a pain.
Have you used it in the last year? It has worked well for me.
When the family was in Japan last year, the wife did not even realize that it always turned itself back on when she put her phone on the wifi on the mobile hotspot in Japan.
The iPad that my kids used to watchnetflix simply always was on the VPN, darn near the entire trip.
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No, not on the iPhone, I'll give it a fresh try, thanks.
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@JaredBusch said:
Except most phones can already handle OpenVPN natively. ZT would be nice but you have to figure out how to build it into a phone. or Phone App to make it useful.
Are you talking about Android / IOS devices, or the desktop phones? There are already clients for Android devices. According to the Web Site, IOS clients are slated for release in "early 2016".
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@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
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@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
It works great on mine. I use it with my FreePBX and it works really well. My Nexus 5 is probably the slowest part of the whole thing.
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@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
Never said that ZT would not work. The issue is the endpoints on the other end.
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@adam.ierymenko said:
. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?
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@Dashrender said:
Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?
No, security is the main reason. NAT traversal is easy (ish) to deal with.
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@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
How are they doing this?
I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP -
@scottalanmiller I disagree about NAT traversal being easy. It isn't too bad in, say, 90% of cases, but there's a long tail of awful edge cases and bad NATs that are terrible to deal with. We know this all too well.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
How are they doing this?
I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIPJust install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
How are they doing this?
I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIPJust install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.
How would you deal with remote handsets?
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@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
How are they doing this?
I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIPJust install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.
How would you deal with remote handsets?
You'd have to use a zt gateway.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@adam.ierymenko said:
@scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.
How are they doing this?
I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIPJust install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.
How would you deal with remote handsets?
ZT goes on every node. Same as with more traditional VPN technologies. If you use OpenVPN, every handset needs OpenVPN on it, too.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@Dashrender said:
zt gateway
Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?
No, you would need them behind a gateway.
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What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
I looked on the ZT site -
@FATeknollogee said:
What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
I looked on the ZT siteZT has mentioned them a few times. ZT supports a gateway function so that you can have a "LAN" behind a gateway without needing ZT installed to each device.
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So I downloaded VyOS and was able to install ZT on it. However I can't get it on my EdgeRouter as I have no other MIPS devices to compile on (I can't install make on the EdgeRouter) and my cross compilation skills do not exist.
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I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.
