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    If LAN is legacy, what is the UN-legacy...?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @adam.ierymenko
      last edited by

      @adam.ierymenko said:

      . No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

      Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?

        No, security is the main reason. NAT traversal is easy (ish) to deal with.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @adam.ierymenko
          last edited by

          @adam.ierymenko said:

          @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

          How are they doing this?
          I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

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            adam.ierymenko @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller I disagree about NAT traversal being easy. It isn't too bad in, say, 90% of cases, but there's a long tail of awful edge cases and bad NATs that are terrible to deal with. We know this all too well.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
              last edited by

              @FATeknollogee said:

              @adam.ierymenko said:

              @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

              How are they doing this?
              I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

              Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @FATeknollogee said:

                @adam.ierymenko said:

                @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                How are they doing this?
                I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                How would you deal with remote handsets?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @FATeknollogee
                  last edited by

                  @FATeknollogee said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @FATeknollogee said:

                  @adam.ierymenko said:

                  @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                  How are they doing this?
                  I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                  Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                  How would you deal with remote handsets?

                  You'd have to use a zt gateway.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                    last edited by

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    @adam.ierymenko said:

                    @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                    How are they doing this?
                    I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                    Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                    How would you deal with remote handsets?

                    ZT goes on every node. Same as with more traditional VPN technologies. If you use OpenVPN, every handset needs OpenVPN on it, too.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      zt gateway

                      Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        @FATeknollogee said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        zt gateway

                        Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?

                        No, you would need them behind a gateway.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
                          I looked on the ZT site

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by

                            @FATeknollogee said:

                            What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
                            I looked on the ZT site

                            ZT has mentioned them a few times. ZT supports a gateway function so that you can have a "LAN" behind a gateway without needing ZT installed to each device.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates
                              last edited by stacksofplates

                              So I downloaded VyOS and was able to install ZT on it. However I can't get it on my EdgeRouter as I have no other MIPS devices to compile on (I can't install make on the EdgeRouter) and my cross compilation skills do not exist.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by stacksofplates

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

                                  Ya, MIPS64. So from what I saw on the ZT github, processor type doesn't matter really as long as it's 32 or 64 bit, but you still need to be able to compile on it.........................Suck.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Yup, sounds like a MIPS development board is in order!

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
                                      last edited by JaredBusch

                                      The EdgeMax line makes use of Debian Wheezy Not sure what version. Haven't followed that in a while.

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @stacksofplates
                                        last edited by

                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

                                        Ya, MIPS64. So from what I saw on the ZT github, processor type doesn't matter really as long as it's 32 or 64 bit, but you still need to be able to compile on it.........................Suck.

                                        You can't cross compile for it? I did that all the time way back when. Engineers requested some open source stuff for IRIX, so I made it happen.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Can't believe that this did not get linked post MangoCon but here is the presentation.

                                          Youtube Video

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