Alternatives to LMI
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@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
It's not the way Scott is saying that's for remote user support when unattended hasn't been setup. Connect on Lan is different.
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@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not if the agent isn't installed. Like how teamviewer does it. You can download an exe that's run ad hoc and stops afterwards. It's not preinstalled, just run time.
So the script could run the .exe from somewhere else locally on demand and just shut off when it's done.
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@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not pre-installed no it isn't.
If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.
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@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not if the agent isn't installed. Like how teamviewer does it. You can download an exe that's run ad hoc and stops afterwards. It's not preinstalled, just run time.
So the script could run the .exe from somewhere else locally on demand and just shut off when it's done.
That exe is an agent, though.
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@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not pre-installed no it isn't.
If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.
It's not always there and running. It's just an exe sitting somewhere. I run the script, it launches the exe. When I close the session that process ends. It's only running while you're connected.
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@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not pre-installed no it isn't.
If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.
It's not always there and running. It's just an exe sitting somewhere. I run the script, it launches the exe. When I close the session that process ends. It's only running while you're connected.
That's an agent. Just not an always on one.
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@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not pre-installed no it isn't.
If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.
No it's not. It's only running while you access it. And no agent is installed before you click connect.
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@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not pre-installed no it isn't.
If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.
It's not always there and running. It's just an exe sitting somewhere. I run the script, it launches the exe. When I close the session that process ends. It's only running while you're connected.
That's an agent. Just not an always on one.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
You said that ^ it's not an installed agent. Dan asked how it would be done without user interaction.
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@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not pre-installed no it isn't.
If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.
It's not always there and running. It's just an exe sitting somewhere. I run the script, it launches the exe. When I close the session that process ends. It's only running while you're connected.
That's an agent. Just not an always on one.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
You said that ^ it's not an installed agent. Dan asked how it would be done without user interaction.
basically it's an agent OR it requires user interaction
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@JaredBusch said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.
I believe LMI says it uses the windows remote registry service to temporarily run for your session.
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@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@JaredBusch said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.
I believe LMI says it uses the windows remote registry service to temporarily run for your session.
Which is similar to how ScreenConnect does it...
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@aaronstuder said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@JaredBusch said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.
I believe LMI says it uses the windows remote registry service to temporarily run for your session.
Which is similar to how ScreenConnect does it...
Um no. We demoed screen connect even they said it can't. The agent had to be preinstalled and Always running. You create the package and deploy it with a GPO.
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@Jason @JaredBusch and I did a session just a few weeks ago and I didn't install anything.
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@Jason did you demo the cloud version or the self hosted version?
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@aaronstuder said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason did you demo the cloud version or the self hosted version?
cloud. And the self hosted is going away
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@aaronstuder said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason @JaredBusch and I did a session just a few weeks ago and I didn't install anything.
So you and @JaredBusch are on the same network? That's the only way that would work
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@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@aaronstuder said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason @JaredBusch and I did a session just a few weeks ago and I didn't install anything.
So you and @JaredBusch are on the same network? That's the only way that would work
No...
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@aaronstuder said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@aaronstuder said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason @JaredBusch and I did a session just a few weeks ago and I didn't install anything.
So you and @JaredBusch are on the same network? That's the only way that would work
No...
Then you either have something installed or ran the agent
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@Jason check this gif from screenconnect, the end user machine doesn't have an agent, just enter the code, same way done on LMI, and it connects to the session. Once the session is completed, the screenconnect session gets cleared up
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@Ambarishrh said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason check this gif from screenconnect, the end user machine doesn't have an agent, just enter the code, same way done on LMI, and it connects to the session. Once the session is completed, the screenconnect session gets cleared up
https://www.screenconnect.com/Images/FeatureAnimationZeroInstallClients.gifGuys, this is not at all what we we talking about. @JaredBusch you understand what we mean right?
